host: elie mystal is our guest. you can see his work for the nation where he works as a justice correspondent. or you can call in and ask a question. the phone lines are open. linda in decatur, georgia. independent. good morning. caller: i want to know why there has been no talk vasectomy's for men. that is useful birth control. i wonder if he had a comment on that. guest: what i would argue is that the 14th amendment should protect a woman's right to choose, just like it protects a man's right to choose or not choose a vasectomy. i don't think the way to solve this wrong is to do additional wrong. there is a way to solve this. protect women and their choices and their bodily autonomy. you don't protect women's bodily autonomy by taking it away from somebody else. you protected by protecting it. you pass laws. i argue you should expand the supreme court. lots of things that we can do to restore what the supreme court has done. but we should focus on protecting people as opposed to hurting other people so they know h

host: elie mystal is our guest.an see his work for the nation where he works as a justice correspondent. or you can call in and ask a question. the phone lines are open. linda in decatur, georgia. independent. good morning. caller: i want to know why there has been no talk vasectomy's for men. that is useful birth control. i wonder if he had a comment on that. guest: what i would argue is that the 14th amendment should protect a woman's right to choose, just like it protects a man's right to choose or not choose a vasectomy. i don't think the way to solve this wrong is to do additional wrong. there is a way to solve this. protect women and their choices and their bodily autonomy. you don't protect women's bodily autonomy by taking it away from somebody else. you protected by protecting it. you pass laws. i argue you should expand the supreme court. lots of things that we can do to restore what the supreme court has done. but we should focus on protecting people as opposed to hurting other people so they know how it

host: we welcome back to the program elie mystal, justice correspondent for the nation magazine.ou wrote on friday in the wake of that supreme court decision, that they took the most extreme course possible here. explain what you mean. guest: mississippi only initially asked to uphold its 15-week ban on abortions. that violated what jackson women's health was doing in mississippi, providing abortions up to 16 weeks. people that think they were providing abortions on demand are wrong. they have always been wrong.

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back with me is elie mystal, he is the author of allow me to retort.special agent who is the director of homegrown studies at the university of california. errol, i'm going to start with you here. i want you to take another listen to miss moss talk about what she was facing. she was questioned by adam schiff on some of the nature's of the threats that she received. take a listen. we will talk about it on the other side. >> donald trump attacked you and her mom your mother using her name 18 times on that call. 18 times. miss moss can you experience what you experienced when he attacked you on your mother in that call with the secretary of georgia state? >> i felt horrible. i felt like it was all my fault. i felt like if i would have never decided to be an elections worker, i could have done anything else, but that is when i decided to do. now, people are lying, spreading rumors, lying, attacking my mom. >> you know, errol, the thing that struck me the most about this testimony is that i heard it before. growing up, you heard it. it brought me into the m