we live in a world for something,elieved love is that the center of the thing we believe.hat the world lacks so much of his love. you did not shy away from talking about the notion of love. >> it is incredibly practical, it is how things work. the base of love is cooperation. work, look at how things it is love. love may be the force that animates the blood in the body. it keeps the electron rotating. it keeps -- love as practical. that is why einstein said our moral heaters are geniuses in heat -- are moral leaders are geniuses in the art of living. educate. love is a very practical. we think it is a sentiment. i did not find it sentimental in any way. i find it practical. i'm still fascinated as to how you operates in a space that seems anti aesthetical to what you believe. younto the medical to what believe. the only thing we're hollywood m of meat is the love of money. hollywood -- the only thing that we're hollywood and love meat is the love of money. is the love of money. do not get me off on a tangent. it is not practiced by this particular industry. use it at the c

when the government cries national security nobody will elieve them." >> ifill: former torney generalhael mukasey and first amendment lawyer floyd abrams, thank you both for joining us. >> brown: now, the tech giant apple is the subject of criticism and scrutiny on capitol hill for using tax practices that margaret warner has the story. >> now, apple executives want the public to focus on the u.s. taxes the company has paid, but the real issue is the billions in taxes that it has not paid. >> warner: chairman carl levin laid out the findings of his senate panel's investigative report today. giant apple, maker of the iphone, ipad and other popular devices has for years used a complex web of irish subsidiaries to avoid paying billions of dollars in taxes to the u.s. or any other country. that strategy meant apple paid r no corporate taxes on at least $74 billion in the past four years, according to the report. saved apple at least $9 billion in u.s. taxes last year, ranking member john mccain showed the outrage was bipartisan. >> today, apple has over 100 billion, more than two thirds o

is in no way interested in thatwing everything and she is sticking to her own --ieves -- believes .elieves- her own beliefs >> they wanted to memorialize the decision to serve alcohol in the white house. the first thing they wanted to do was build a fountain. not want mydo memorial to be a water fountain. i want to be in the hearts of people rather than on a piece of canvas and particularly the irony of it being a water fountain was certainly be galling. she was certainly not happy they were trying to raise the money to do this one dime at a time. she said, i think i am worth more than a dime. >> we are showing it to you on screen so you can see how we have preserved lucy hayes. how different is that a few of her from the woman you came to know through your research. ? >> very different. the woman is an enigma. she is trying to figure out how to be her own person. she has been stereotyped in a way that mary todd lincoln had been stereotyped. currentnot show the agenda incredible guts she had. i just wish america understood. if i could tell them one thing about lucy hayes, it is that i find

--elieve he is a decent back guy. i voted for him the last time before. i really want him to win.host: you wanted him to win back in 2000 and eight -- 2008? caller: i was in the navy. i bartended. i was a kitchen manager. host: thank you for sharing your story this evening about joe biden. south carolina. republican. what do you think about the two events? i was awell, i tell you republican with reagan. but now the republicans have changed. trying tot to stop fight obama and work for the people's. they have not to get serious and worked for the people and stop trying to make it hard for someone in the white house. we're going down a dead-end road. thank you. host: pennsylvania. independent. do you have a preference for 2016 yet? caller: i hear the term bipartisanship and people talking about one party against the other. there's a fundamental difference between these people. thatve the conservatives are standing on the side of constitutionalism. we have conservatives in the republican party who are tired of seeing the republican party trying to gander to the latino vote and immigra

i do not happen to necessarily elieve that. the other problem is the cost. what i keep hearing is this incredible cost that it would aise the bill to cost. i have real frustration because we have had homeland security executive after homeland security executive come in, commit to timelines and not be able to carry those timelines out. so, i have to think a lot about hat i am going to do here. the department just has not seemed to be able to do it. my understanding is that it adds $10 billion to the bill. >> $25 billion. >> $25 billion, over what time? >> 10 years. they tried the biometric system in atlanta and detroit, and it just did not work. more people got through. the system that we have in place -- of course, the present law is terrible. we know that. what we have tried to do is put in the best system that is workable within a reasonable amount of time. >> what you are telling me is there is a photograph -- if you grow a beard, mustache, change the color of your eyes, deplete your face, that all of that will be picked up? >> yes, because you can change

i know you've heard that over and over again from members here but only because folks elieve it. there are men and women who do what you do who say you're in arm's way. do you recall talking to charlene lamb? >> vividly. >> those decisions were they decisions ms. lamb was making or were they from a higher level? >> it was unclear. one thing that struck me throughout the entire time i was in libya was a strange decision making process. the undersecretary for management was dealing directly with her. as her supervisor two levels ahead, he has the ability to do that. as well as the right. but it was strange that there was that direct relationship and i never really saw interaction from assistant secretary boswell or our director. it was even more clear in october when we were here, there were two levels not reflected. it was quite a jump between almost and the undersecretary. certainly i felt that anything lamb was decided certainly had been run by undersecretary kennedy. >> given the seriousness of that conversation, thinking about extending s.s.d. and m.s.d. as the security suppor