at the same time, poppy, you see elijah cummings and the democrats' problem here.. you kept hearing him say, i go to my chairman and i ask him to help to cooperate and he gets his marching orders from the top, from speaker ryan on down. so, that's why he's trying -- what he's trying to do here is apply some pressure, shake something loose from the republicans to help them join the democrats to try to get something out of the white house, but the partisan politics here really do get in the way because democrats have very little power, other than to come before cameras and try to apply this kind of pressure. >> jim sciutto, we did learn today that the defense department inspector general is now investigating this. jim, what exactly does that mean? what will that investigation look like? >> well, you have two tracks here right now. one is a legal track, nonreport on a security clearance form. that's a violation of the law, if you're not truthful on that form. as a retired senior army officer, my understanding is that this is an administrative thing for them, still con

elijah cummings joins us next. >>> we received no internal documents relating to what >>> we receivedno internal documents relating to what general flynn reported to the white house when they vetted him to become national security adviser. and we received no documents relating to his termination as national security adviser for concealing his discussion with the russian ambassador. in short, the white house has refused to provide this committee with a single piece of paper in response to our bipartisan request, and that's simply unacceptable. >> top democrat on the house oversight committee, elijah cummings, being very direct today about the fact the white house has not given his committee any documents, not a single sheet of paper related to the fired national security adviser michael flynn. the white house, he says, has refused to provide this committee with a single piece of paper. joining us now is congressman elijah cummings of maryland, the ranking democrat on the oversight committee. really nice to have you here. thanks for your time. >> good to be with you. >> so i pronounce m

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now these latest revelations that elijah cummings put out today are pretty damming. >> they are. he's the di ahead. >> defense intelligence agency. >> right. and he was warned not to accept payments from foreign entities. we know that he did. that secondly, he did not disclose that on his security forms when he went into the white house. so there are two real problems here. issue is something that really does haunt the white house. we've reported as have others that jared kushner for example did not disclose his meetings with foreign entities on his disclosure form. he is still waiting to meet with the fbi about that. so this is an issue for this white house and that's perhaps one reason that they don't want to start releasing documents is that they may have other problems along this line. >> you heard congressman elijah sumings s cummings so far is not submitting the documents they're seeking involving his tenure there as the president's chief national security adviser for less than a month. >> that's right. and i think gloria is absolutely right. they are dragging their feet be

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now elijah customings saying that's not true, either. so, a changing story and each of his defenses have been undermined by the facts. >> yeah. do you get a sense right now from your sources of what this means for the broader russia investigation, how it fits in? >> well, listen, you have so many strands that are in that broader investigation -- >> that's exactly right. >> one of which is, you know, was there collusion? was there cooperation between russian officials and members of the trump campaign during the campaign, specifically with releasing documents, et cetera, stolen e-mails from clinton, et cetera. that's one line. so, this is separate from that, but it does speak to a larger issue here, which is connections between people close to trump and russia. in this case, not only a professional connection -- meetings, that famous photo of flynn next to the russian president -- but also taking money from a foreign government, and not just any foreign government, but a foreign government that you cannot describe as anything but an adver

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jason and elijah were saying the information should be declassified. i think we have kasie hunt available to give us more analysis. i was trying to do your job as well as you do, describing what just happened. fill in the blanks for me and tell me what you make of this. >> you were doing a great job of it, ali. this is pretty remarkable, to have both the chairman and ranking member of this oversight committee come out together. it's not something we see very often. and say they have a problem with what has gone on here, which is that the white house has declined to provide any documents that this committee demanded in a bipartisan way related to what you were outlining, whether michael flynn had inappropriate contacts or inappropriately accepted money from a foreign government. the one gok yudocument in parti is an sf-86. to apply for a security cheer clearance from the government, you have to fill out a very long document, detailing your past, your friends, if you've been overseas, any contacts you've had with people overseas. so that's the informatio

first, what elijah cummings said and the decision to release documents? >> chris, i'll be limited on the response on the topic partly because of my role in other investigations. i'll say this. i have firm confidence in the inspector generals. having an inspector general do a review, they will do a thorough and detailed review. >> all right. i'm saying cummings move. what do you think of his move? >> you have to ask cummings that and the reason for showing the documents. i have not had a chance to sit down and review what elijah said and provided. again, if the inspector general is involved in something, that is a good sign. you though it will be thorough and detailed. >> the idea of who is to blame for knowing about michael flynn taking money from russia and turkey and if it was right or wrong. what do you make of the white house saying it is obama's fault? >> the person to blame is the person who may have or haven't taken the money is what i would say on that. let's make sure we have all of the facts and again the inspector general involved is a good thi

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we expect to hear later today potentially from elijah cummins. you saw him appear in the same frame with jason chaffetz earlier this week talking about this issue. we do not expect to see chaffetz today. he says he has to get emergency foot surgery and is not going to be working in congress in the next three or four weeks. >> kasie hunt, i ask you to stick around. thank you for bringing us those late-breaking comments. i want to go to kelly o'donnell. before we get to taxes and delve into some of that news, though, put into context the extent of which this russian investigation, this probe on mike flynn has really overshadowed some of the president's agenda, particularly during that critical week. >> well, sources tell told me that the president thought by relieving flynn of his duties, so to speak, forcing him to submit a resignation letter, that that would end it. far from it, of course, in the ways of washington, which are still somewhat unfamiliar to president trump. this kind of investigation has a tendency to cast a long shadow, and with fl

and elijah cummings said he is willing to work with the white house, he is one of the democrats who showedp at the inauguration. he is giving his assessment, that was very out spoken, we're talking about dr. king here. >> right, i don't know if congressman cumming has ever met steve bannonor met him personally, but to go to the level of calling him white supremacist like, is beyond the pale, you can say you don't like him or breitbart, that is fair. but to attack their personal character when you don't know that for sure on a public stage is a line where i think you go too far. >> adam, let me bring numbers here, this is done by the university. this is a survey that asked whether african-americans are worse off economically because most just don't have the motivation to pull themselves out of poverty. 55% of white republicans agreed with this statement, compared to 66% of white democrats, why do republicans believe that in such high numbers? >> well, i can tell you why, there is a problem with racism on both sides of the divide. there is too much of it. i want to comment if i can, don on t

that from the chairman of the committee, jason chaffetz, and the democratic -- ranking democrat, elijah cummings. you can see that online at -span.org. ms. pelosi: they said children could be able to ask questions, ut you can take a picture. children asking a question. welcome, children. we always do what we do here in recognition of our responsibility to our children. as you know, washington is a place so dedicated to honoring our founders. you see monuments and statues throughout the city and throughout the capitol complex to that end. we do revere our founders and grateful for their leadership and vision. but what we do here, which is part of our founders' vision, is to work for the future. so you are inspiration, you are our purpose. thank you for being here today to be -- for being a constant inspiration as to what our purpose is and our responsibility to our children -- our founders predicated their optimism on the fact that every generation would take responsibility to make a future better for the next generation. so honoring the vows of our founders and committed to the aspirati

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congressman congressman elijah cummings will be my guest. >>> the news continues right now. >>> hi there, i'm brooke baldwin. let's pick up where wolf left off. this brand-new headache as a new investigation is launched into president trump's investigation of national flynn. we learned today an investigation was opened this month to take a closer look into payments flynn accepted from russian interests. we are also learning about nully classified documents that show the dia warned general flynn not to take payments from foreign governments three years ago. this is coming from the house democrat, elijah cummings who lashed out today. >> the white house refused to release even a single document, not a single document in response to the bipartisan document requests. not one syllable. i watched sean spicer say how hard it would be to respond to our request. come on, man. i do not understand why the white house is covering up for michael flynn. i don't get it. after the president fired him. for lying. so the president fired him for lying about his communications with the russian ambassador. t

congressman chiefest and elijah cummings held a briefing to talk about the findings. >> thanks for beingn obligation to seek and obtain permission to receive money from foreign governments prior to any engagement with them. it does not appear to us that that was ever sought nor did he ever get that permission. we will jointly be doing a letter for a final determination on that. that will need to come from the department of army as well as the inspector general at the department of defense. and if that money was received by general flynn, and we believe that it was, that money needs to be recovered. that final determination again want to come from the department of the army as well as the department of defense, but as a former military officer, you simply cannot take money from russia, turkey or anybody else. and it appears as if he did take that money. it was inappropriate and there are repercussions for the violation of law. >> good morning, and i just like to read a very short statement. i want to be very careful because we are coming out of a classified briefing. first, we have just c

if you look at the kornls that elijah cummings released today, it is very clear. and this is kind of thing, if the department of justice would bring, that they would show that he got this letter that was very explicit, once he left the government, if he was going the take money from a foreign government, he needed to receive advance permission. it is absolutely clear. when you come to look at criminal prosecutions, the key document people will see is the sf 86. it is what you fill out every time you get a security clearance. and sean spicer said his security clearance was renewed in 2016. did he disclose that he was paid for the speech? if he didn't, that's a crime for which he could be prosecuted. >> we've heard the t word being thrown around. from everything about michael flynn's actions, i'm trying to get a sense, is this the kind of they know that falls into the category of treason? or what is it? >> i don't know if it is treason. i think he was making a buck, a foreign government, the government of russia that's hostile to the united states and failed to disc

jones, this morning, representative elijah couplings had strong words for steve ban none, he is speakingluther king, jr., on this the 49ing anniversary of his assassination, listen to this. >> in a way, he would be pleased to have seen the first african-american elected president to the scene, for people like me and others who need opportunities that would not have had them back then, but at the same time, when we see a guy like bannon pull as far as i'm concerned a white supremacist-type person sitting in the white house sitting in the white house and i'm paying his salary. i think he'd be very disappointed. i think he'd be disappointed with all the hate talk that we saw and the climate. >> what do you think, right on? too far? what? >> he's speaking for an awful lot of people. there is a deep concern about bannon's background, yet, this whole thing, we now politely call the alt right, which is a made-up marketing term for white nationalists and white supremacists. bannon has had a relationship with those people through his publication and that is just very, very disturbing. i can't ima

. >> in the meantime house oversight committee member democratic elijah cummings released three new documentsertaining to flynn that spell out he was he was specifically told not to accept foreign payments even as the white house refuses to hand over other internal papers. >> so, the president fired him for lying about the communications with the russian ambassador. they should be bending over backwards to help us. it does not make any sense. and it makes the american people think the white house has something to >> and joining us to talk about the flynn controversy is emily shier the politics editor for bustle.com. thanks for coming in. we appreciate it. >> it's my pleasure. >> so, what are your thoughts on this? you know, the white house -- what they're saying isn't cooperating. what do you make of this situation so far. >> well its not good for the trump administration. it was bad enough when flynn was forced to resign in disgrace for not being as we could say wholly truthful with mike pence about the nature of his conversation with the russian ambassador but that in many ways is just the

representatives jason tibbetts and elijah cummings updated reporters. let's watch. representative tibbetts: thank you for being here. we had an application to seek and obtain permission to receive money from foreign governments prior to any engagement with them. it does not appear to us that that was ever sought nor did he ever get that commission. we will jointly be doing a letter for a final determination on that.

i think elijah cummings, clearly leadership there.vil rights organization, we have a different role than someone who has to deal with their constituents and trying to get bills passed, not bills passed. the art of politics is compromised. the art of civil rights is to try to change policy and to advocate to get things done. for example, at our convention, parents of of trayvon martin, we work with real victims. this is not some policy on a placard onto us, it's real. a lot of people deal with the real pain of people. >> where do you fit in that spectrum? do you just resist or do you seek middle ground? i'm not saying you but what do you think the civil rights movement should do. >> best speak to most vulnerable. that's the key. the overarching value, the overarching commitment is pursue policies that will benefit circumstances of most vulnerable and most marginal. what will that entail? assessing policy recommendations of the trump administration. it will involve aligning your self with folks resisting some of those policies. it will

representatives jason tibbetts and elijah cummings updated reporters. let's watch. representative tibbetts: thank you for being here. we had an application to seek and obtain permission to receive money from foreign governments prior to any engagement with them. it does not appear to us that that was ever sought nor did he ever get that commission. we will jointly be doing a letter for a final determination on that. that will have to come from the department of army as well as the inspector general. of the department of defense. if that money was received by general flynn and we believe it was, that money needs to be recovered. that final determination again will have to come from the department of the army as well as the department of defense. as a former military officer, you civilly cannot take money from russia, turkey, or anybody else. and it appears as if he did take that money, it was inappropriate and repercussions for the violation of law. cummings: i would like to read a short statement. briefingome from this with the end -- intelligence agency. review to

each section is numbered there are some minor redactions in the letter that congressman elijah cummings released today. but section 6 is untouched by the redactions, and very clear. it is entitled "foreign compensation requires advanced approval." let me just read that again. the title of section 6, foreign compensation requires advanced approval. there is nothing in the letter that is easier to understand than section 6. and so when michael flynn read section 6, it was probably telling him something that he already knew. quote, the emoluments clause of the u.s. constitution, article i, section 9, clause 8, as interpreted in comptroller general opinions and by the department of justice office of legal counsel prohibits receipt of consulting fees, gifts, travel expenses, honoraria, or salary by all retired military personnel, officer and enlisted, regular and reserve from a foreign government. the italics focus the eye. prohibits receipt of consulting fees by all retired personnel from a foreign government. that is the only line in this six-page letter that has italics. the only one. it

amy: that is maryland commerce member of elijah cummings.ngressman peter welch, just to correct what i said, you are the only congressman from vermont. of course, there are two senators. it you join with your democratic colleagues in the house oversight committee in demanding white house documents on michael flynn. what are you looking for here? you also have the trump administration blaming president obama for giving michael flynn security clearance. >> first, with respect to general flynn, we are looking for evidence of the payment that he received from foreign governments that would be in violation of the law. there is an immense amount of evidence. he has acknowledged some of this, that he was on the payroll , getting conversation from foreign governments during the time he had security clearance. there are serious questions about him being in absolute violation of the law. that is the issue with respect to general glenn. the second issue, the one that is really ongoing, is the russian connection. and what was it, if any, and the campaig

congressman elijah cummings is accusing the white house of trying to cover-up for flynn. sean spicer firing right back passing blame on the obama administration for renewing flynn's security clearance. also this hour, partisan battling over health care. renews the threat of a government shut down. house democrats say they'll oppose a stop gap funding measure to keep the government running if, if republicans rush to hold a health care vote for the president's -- before the president's 100th day in office. that would be on saturday. house speaker paul ryan says there's no timetable for a vote on a new gop measure to repeal and replace obamacare. republicans still are trying to lock up enough support within their own party for a controversial compromise that would weaken several key obamacare reforms. >>> we're covering all those stories much more with our guests including the top democratic in the house armed services committee congressman adam smith and our correspondents and analysts are standing by. let's go to our reporter manu raju. there are serious allegations now ag

republican jason chaffetz and democrat elijah cummings say during his white house vetting flynn did not report money he received from russia nor did he receive permission to receive money from a foreign source. >> as a former military officer, you simply cannot take money from russia, turkey, or anybody else. >> the white house has refused to provide this committee with a single piece of paper in response to our bipartisan request and that's simply unacceptable. >> we have reports and analysis from nbc's kasie hunt, kristen welker and chief legal correspondent ari melbur. kasie, on capitol hill, we need to explain the background here. all this starts well before the election. >> it does, chris. at issue is the -- are these payments that mike flynn received from rt, the russian network with ties to the russian government, and jason chaffetz and elijah cummings wrote to the white house and other government agencies saying hey, we have a lot of concerns about this and we would like to see all of the documents related to the former nsa director's contacts with foreign officials, with any fo

and as elijah cummings put it, what they learned is extremely troubling. he said he has concerns, and what he's seeing may be a major problem. they just left that briefing. let's talk to another person who just left that briefing, democratic congressman raja christa murthy, a democrat from illinois who sits on that very same committee. congressman, thank you so much for coming in. >> thank you, kate. >> we just heard from the chairman and ranking democrat. i want to get your take. you just walked out of that same meeting to view documents related to payments that flynn may or may not have received from foreign contacts. what did you learn? >> you know, basically, what i learned is that there are more questions now than answers at this point. i'm just -- i've got to say, first of all, thank you to chairman chaffetz and ranking member cummings for arranging this briefing, this bipartisan approach to uncovering the facts here. but what i learned, i mean, just simply raises too many questions at this point, and it's all the more reason why we have to continue

what you saw elijah cummings do tonight and the challenge he laid down to sean spicer to let you know there is a big problem going on and it's senseless. >> the whole russia stuff, the white house said if they want to have an investigation let them have an investigation, it's never been to van's point we will do everything we can to make sure. >> if anything, going back to the earlier point about the president defending flynn early on i think there has been -- i'm not saying this is why this is happening, i don't want to connect the two, i want to take note some in the white house have been concerned about flynn has been around them a very long time. if flynn feels as if he is being fully thrown under the bus or whatever met for we're using, that risks coming back possibly painfully against the president and i think they're a little mindful of that. thank you. we're going to take a break. >>> does the white house have a new strategy on nafta. what the president is saying about it now when we continue. e. it's a supercomputer. with this grade of protection... it's a fortress. and with

jason chaffetz and elijah cummings updated reporters. >> thanks for being here. -- an obligation to seek and to engage withon foreign governments. it does not appear that he ever got that her mission. we will jointly be

documents obtained by the house oversight committee, some of which were released by ranking democratic elijah comings. >> he said these documents raised questions about why flynn hid the payments after the warning of administration. >> i obviously didn't understand why the white house is covering up for michael flynn. i don't get it. after the president fired him for lying. >> the republican chairman of the oversight committee is not happy with comings. he said the democrats broke the long-standing protocol, releasing documents. >> sean spicer says it is appropriate for them to look into flynn. but when asking why flynn wasn't thoroughly vetted, spicer pinned that on the obama administration. >> he was initiated clearance, and the trip and trance actions you refer to was in 2015, all that clearance was made in the obama administration and apparently the knowledge that he took. >> the source strongly denies any effort to conseal that payment. he said flynn briefed the intelligence agency before and after that trip. >>> president trump offering new insight as to why he decided to renegotiate na

earlier today the leaders of the house oversight committee, jason chaffetz and elijah cummings, talked to reporters about their investigation into russia in the 2016 elections. chairman chaffetz said he sees no evidence that michael flynn, the former national security advisor to president trump, complied with the law when he received money from meeting with russian organizations in 2015. his is 10 minutes. mr. chaffetz: thank you for being here. this is an obligation to seek and obtain permission to receive money from foreign governments prior to any engagement with them. it does not appear to us that that was ever sought nor did he ever get that permission. we will jointly be doing a letter for a final determination on that. that will need to come from the department of army as well as the inspector general at the department of defense. and if that money was received by general flynn, and we believe that it was, that money needs to be recovered. that final determination, again, will have to come from the department of the army as well as the department of defense, but as a former mili

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elijah come ings raising the pro spektd or not just misbehavior here but of breaking the law. that unity on this issue is remarkable. the other point i would make, too, is the white house putting a lot of day light between itself and flynn, which also defies belief. he was the white house's national security advisor. the idea that the white house had no involvement in or responsibility for vetting an official like that also defies belief. >> absolutely. if they were saying if it was before noon on january 20th, don't ask us. >> reporter: it doesn't work that way. >> right. i'm going to congressman n connolly. get straight to the question. do you believe general flynn committed a crime? >> there's no question. the form he had to fill out, sf-86 specifically says you must answer completely and truthfully. he did neither. it was not complete and it wasn't truthful. so there's no question about a violation of law. by the way, it's a felony to knowingly with hold information. was it willful, was it accidental? you just foirktd that you made $70,000 from an appearance in a.t. in rus

congressional elijah cummings knows the dnew deputy ag very well.whimpers ] find ping-pong. okay, let's go. find your awesome with the xfinity x1 voice remote. that's amazing! >>> welcome back to "morning joe." joining us now from capitol hill, the ranking member of the committee oversight and government reform, democratic congressman elijah cummings of maryland. congressman, always good to see you, sir. thanks for being with us. >> good morning. >> let's pick up on an issue you've been talking about for some time now and that is michael flynn. you're looking at ties between russia and the trump campaign, potential ties anyway. you've been trying to get these documents from the white house. sean spicer said from the briefing room two days ago, we don't have the documents. these are things that took place before we were in the white house. can you still get your hands on them, and if so, how? >> well, i'm hoping that we will be able to get our hands on them. clearly the white house is stonewalling. and i don't use that word frequently. because i try

laughter ) to "the new york times," he made an extraordinary claim about a demoratic congressman: "elijah cummings was in my office, and he said, 'you will go down as one of the great presidents in the history of our country.'" really? i get the "you will go down" part, but, after that, you kind of lost me. ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: i'm going down! ♪ ♪ and you ain't around ♪ yeah >> stephen: let me remind you, elijah cummings is a member of the congressional black caucus and lifelong progressive democrat. so if this quote sounds a little far-fetched, it's because, yeah, representative cummings released a statement saying, "i have said repeatedly that trump could be a great president if-- if-- he takes steps to truly represent all americans rather than continuing on the divisive and harmful path he is currently on." so apparently, no matter what you say to trump, he only hears the good parts. ( laughter ) everything else just sounds like the charlie brown teacher. "wa-wa-wa-wawa, great president, wa-wa-wa-wa-wa." ( applause ) ( piano riff ) today we're learning more about a big event

elij elijah comins has said there is no sign of them being obstructionests. i've had to do some of these forms and i know the disclosure of who you visit and who you're working for, all of that is very basic and yet if you are an applicant, you can sometimes fudge. and when you talk about somebody who was with the campaign 2015/2016, you kind of grew in it and didn't get the oversight of some of the newer applicants. one of the questions he's asked is name everybody in the world who might not want you to work here. >> what are you say sng i have no idea what you're say sng. >> i think that general flynn came in through the campaign ranks. he was not vetted as well as people who came on later. the vetting process became more and more formalized. they depended on flynn to do his own due diligence and they realize you've got to have a lot of oversight. >> so what your saying is the administration dade bad job of vetting flynn? >> i think they did a fair job but it's obvious they have to do more than that. i'm not going to remind you he's the only democrat in the

. >> congressman elijah cummings also released documents on flynn, showing that the pentagon warned flynn about accepting payments. the documents show he did not report the money he received from turkish interests. what is more, the comments say that michael flynn must have seen the warnings about flynn and cash. >> this letter explicitly warned general flynn as he entered retirement that the constitution prohibited him from accepting any foreign government payments without advance permission. the pentagon's warning to general flynn was bold, italicized and could not have been clearer. >> today, the white house responded by blaming the obama administration, the administration that fired flynn nearly a year before donald trump even began to run for president, and by repeatedly deploying the talking point that the current president made all the right decisions. >> general flynn was a career military officer who maintained a high level security clearance throughout his career in the military. his clearance was last reissued by the obama administration in 2016 with full knowledge of his activ

elijah cummings says look, they don't appear to be cooperating. how do they respond? >> stone-walling, covering up, whatever language you want to use. the white house is glad that the president fired michael flynn when he did because if he hadn't gotten rid of him on february 13th, he likely would have had to fire h two more times since then given everything that has come out. the white house insists there was no need to investigate flynn for security clearance when he became the national security adviser. he had the clearance for years, one that was reinvestigated as revealed today through the obama administration. that was after he appeared in russia and was paid $45,000 for attending that gala that was put on by the kremlin-backed media giant r.t. in russia. the question is when the security clearance was re-upped, did it flynn disclose his payments from a dutch company that was representing turkish interests that flynn did consulting for. sean spicer said he believed the department of defense in investigating flynn is taking a a -- appropriate action. listen here.

now the republican jay sen chaffetz and elijah cummings say flynn could face prosecution. >> personally i so no information or data to support the notion that general flynn complied with the law. he was supposed to seek permission and receive permission from both the secretary of state and the secretary of the army prior to going to russian and accept the payments and engaging in that activity. i see no evidence he did that. >> i agree with the chairman. he was supposed to get permission and supposed to report it. he didn't. period. there's no evidence of it. >> shepard: congressman cummings added because general flynn failed to report the russian payment when he requested security clearance, he could face felony charges. flynn's lawyer said that his client was up front about his business in russia and the payment from r.t. the statement reads in party "general flynn briefed the intelligence agency extensively regarding the r.t. speaking event trip both before and after the trip. he answered any questions that were posed by the director -- by the d.i.a. concerning the trip during those

. >> chairman jason chaffetz and elijah cummings say there's no indication that flynn obeyed the law when he did not disclose payments that he did not receive from russia. >> as a former military officer, you simply cannot take money from russia, turkey or anybody else and it appears as if he did take that money, it was inappropriate and there are repercussions for the violation of law. >> i believe the oversight committee should be holding a hearing with general flynn. i'm seeing the chairman, we talked briefly about this and it seems this is the purview of the intelligence committee. but we need to have the opportunity to ask general flynn directly why he concealed these foreign payments from the defense department. >> we do have a statement from general flynn's lawyer that reads as follows. "as has previously been reported, general flynn briefed the defense intelligence agency, a component agency of dod before and after the trip and he answered any questions that were supposed by dia concerning the trip during those briefings. just to put in perspective for you, how big this inves

. >> as jim points out it's not just elijah cummings, it's the chairman jason chaffetz as well. they were making very strong statements. the former acting attorney general sally yates and the former director of national intelligence james clapper are now set to testify a second time. may 8th on russian interference in the presidential election. they're going to be testifying on may 8th before the senate judiciary committee. earlier they were both testifying before the house intelligence committee, but senator lindsey graham, he's the chairman of the subcommittee, what is he saying about yates's testimony? this could be very significant? >> senator graham is saying he's interested in a couple things. one, he's interested in why the former trump campaign, national security adviser carter page was a subject of a fisa warrant requested by the fbi. he wants to know what was behind that. where that may lead. that's key to him. and keep in mind you will have the former acting attorney general sally yates, the former director of national intelligence james clapper like lie to testify be

jason chaffetz and elijah cummins saying this today about the president's disgraced national security advisor. >> as a former military officer, you simply cannot take money from russia, turkey, or anybody else. it appears as if you did take it, it was inappropriate. and there are repercussions for the violation of law. >>> plus, caitlyn jenner, why she says this about president trump. >> i would love to go down and play golf with him and say why the hell did you do that? >> we want to get right to the latest on the russia investigation. first, cnn's justice correspondent pamela brown has that. pamela. >> well don today a top house republican said michael flynn likely broke the law after failing to disclose payments he received from foreign governments before becoming president trump's national security advisor. now the revelation comes after leaders of the house oversight committee reviewed classified documents in a private briefing. speaking of reporters on capitol hill today, they revealed they've seen no proof showing flynn, a former top military intelligence official received perm

well, congressman elijah cummings announced this investigation today into work that michael flynn didernment noun this alleged maybe effort or nondisclosure of payments that he received from the russian government on clearance documentation for the white house. now, at today's press conference, elijah cummings released these documents he says he got from the department of defense that are now unclassified. he says that attempting to get these documents from the white house he accused them of being extremely difficult making it impossible to get this documentation. take a listen. >> earlier this week the white house refused, absolutely refused to produce even a single document, not a single document in response to the bipartisan document requests that i sent with our republican chairman. not one syllable. i watched sean spicer make all kinds of excuses about how hard it would be to comply with our request. come on, man. >> reporter: well, the congressman went ton say that he believes that the white house is actually covering up for michael flynn but if the wh disagrees. in today's brie

elijah cummings asked the white house for documents. the white house referred cummings and jason chaffetz to other agencies which he believes that those documents. but he isn't buying that, accusing the white house at the very least of stone walling, at the most covering for flynn. jason chaffetz said he believes the white house is fully complied with the request for documents and that any suggestion that it's stone walling is bogus. he is also suggesting the number and degree of documents being asked for are such that no white house would ever comply with such a request. >> melissa: i thought some of the most interesting exchange came around their explanation of the security clearance. talk to us about that. >> reporter: here's the thing. a lot of people are assuming that when lieutenant general michael flynn was named the national security adviser, that's when he applied for a security clearance and would have put all of this down on a standard form 86. but he received his security clearance years and years ago and, in fact, that secu

it's from john highland and congressman elijah comings.h this. >> i can't imagine what it must be like for particularly a person of color. i would just be befuddled that the first african-american president could be followed by trump. i don't understand how they two americas coexist in sequence. >> as an affconcern american who is a student of politics, trying to come up with the answer is painful. to see this as i walk towards the evening of my life, it makes me want to work night and day for the rest of my life to try to make sure that we make the best of the situation. this is bigger than trump. this is about the soul of our democracy. >> the soul of our democracy. wow, it's interesting. >> it was so powerful, so emotionally poinant. the whole interview was the best we've had on the whole show. there's so many levels. there was pain, just deep thought about where we are, where we're head. and i said some great things. first of all, he talked about how did he measure the fear in his community. he said he measured by the church. and thoug

congressman elijah cummings.the pentagon opens its own investigation into payments flynn received from foreign governments. now, to be clear, foreign military officers can't accept payment from foreign gove