of virg associates and laurie johnson and veteran war zone. correspondent and political a list, elijah mcneil at you're both very welcome at laurie. can we begin with you? we're just hearing from the un secretary general's office saying that he was quotes . sab moved by reports of the shooting. the white heis earlier saying that it's a tragic terrorist that a vend but ukraine are you creating ins were not involved in terms of the introduction response so far what, what is your take? oh yeah that's, that's lots of people. okay. lot, i used to do this for a living, what i was at the state department in the office of counter terrorism. so number one, we have to go back to mar 7 when both united states and united kingdom issue warnings, their embassies and moscow, to the respective citizens, to be prepared for a terrorist attack within the next 2448 hours. those kinds of warnings are not issued unless you have some specific intelligence that is, consider those 2 things, specific and credible. normally, if you've got really solid information, you don't go public, you go to, in this case, should ha