the honorable elijah muhammad teaches us that our own mind has to be changed. we have to change our mind about ourselves. >> in what way? >> well, so he teaches us the importance of moral reformation, knowledge of self. the average so-called negro doesn't think he can go into business and provide jobs for himself and because of this thinks he can only get a job from the white man or only get clothes from the white man or can only get food from the white man. we follow the honorable elijah muhammad who taught that the same thing that the white man has done for himself and his kind, if our people could be -- if we could be cured, of our slave mentality that was indoctrinated into us during slavery we would realize that just as the white man can do these things for himself and his kind we can get together in unity and harmony and do the same thing for ourselves and our kind. >> no racism fix there or blame. just a suggestion on how to combat slave mentality. while you might think my five points are too simple, some of you, some of the world's most powerful people

go back generations between these two subcultures that they think that nation even after 751 elijah muhammaddies, a religious walk that is about instrumental icing religion for the purpose of politics that is essentially blasphemy. so the dominant muslim mode of muslims at graterford is much more contextual doctrinaire faking out what the right answers are trying to execute your practices according to the right doctrine and baraka is this kind of -- he's different. i start the book with three aphorisms and baraka's aphorism is god created the world and said have added, fellows. >> host: absolutely. if baraka is the foil to any narrow notion of men in prison attempting to be good to men who are charged in theory with overseeing that good, you don't just tell the story but you tell the story of correctional officers. tell us about these men who are charged with overseeing the interpretation of good or rehabilitation. >> guest: right. much like the prisoners who come to work in the chapel the correctional officers come to the work in the chapel and also bid for those posts. they want to have th