back to elise labott. your thoughts on the _ it. back to elise labott.ced on his side that this is the beginning of some sort of ground incursion into gaza? i think the question is it's definitely the beginning of something but we know what. is it going to be a dozen or so of these small, tactical, you know, manoeuvres? and then, a big fall on tanks rolling in? tens of thousands of troops rolling in —— full—on. 0r tens of thousands of troops rolling in —— full—on. or is this it? this is what the us is recommending, by the way, surgical, tactical, get in, get out, destroy a target, get out. assess a new target. is this going to be a more long, drawn out thing? pretty much destroyed most of north gaza already. so i don't think there is much more days of extensive... this is trying to do, shape the battlefield. if this is the second phase so i think they are going in and trying to find out what they've done. like, what they've destroyed, what's left, what do we still need to do? i don't think this is the beginning of the full on. this may be the beginning o

stay with us in the studio is elise labott,. won't ask you, knowing the region and the situation there in gaza, they the weaponry and how do they stack up compared to what they will be facing from idf?- will be facing from idf? you've not will be facing from idf? you've got imagine — will be facing from idf? you've got imagine that _ will be facing from idf? you've got imagine that today, - will be facing from idf? you've got imagine that today, as - will be facing from idf? you've j got imagine that today, as ravi said, not day one. 5000 rockets just today. that's more than 2008 combined. 0k, just today. that's more than 2008 combined. ok, so they have been supplied, they have been funded, we don't know that iran, who is the main factor, whether they were masterminding it or involved in intimate planning of it but certainly they are being supplied somewhere, so they have tunnels, they are getting weaponry. i don't think, as we say, they shot their entire arsenal in a day. that's the problem for the israelis who did not see this

here in the studio with me has been elise labott.here gives you some idea of the extent of hamas's infiltration across the border from gaza into southern israel. these are 17 locations where we have verified the presence of palestinian militants in this attack. from up in space, this is what that area of southern israel looked like today. just look at all that smoke coming from burning buildings. if we zoom in you can see the heat spots that we've enhanced so you can see them. now, all these cross—border infiltrations by palestinian militants taken together with the thousands of rockets fired at israel represent a massive intelligence failure from israel. it should have seen this coming because they had regular military patrols going along that border. this is footage taken some years earlier. but they had cameras, sensors, informants inside the militant groups. and yet hamas was able to charge through that border, crossing it with things like this bulldozer, paragliders, by land, sea and air, and all the while, hamas has been sendin

with me is elise labott, contributing editor for politico magazine and founder of zivvy media. about the intelligence. i imagine questions will be being asked tonight about what appears to be an intelligence failure? it what appears to be an intelligence failure? , ., , ., failure? it 'ust goes to show you, what's failure? itjust goes to show you, what's going _ failure? itjust goes to show you, what's going on _ failure? itjust goes to show you, what's going on in _ failure? itjust goes to show you, what's going on in gaza - failure? itjust goes to show you, what's going on in gaza is - failure? itjust goes to show you, what's going on in gaza is really. failure? itjust goes to show you, | what's going on in gaza is really a what�*s going on in gaza is really a mystery to the israelis, but also to the egyptians, who are on the border. still there is tension between israel and egypt, israel and jordan, even though they have peace with these countries. but the intelligence, where was the united states intelligence? the fact 60—100 terrorists were able to infiltrate, cross borders

with me is elise labott, contributing editor for politico magazine and founder of zivvy media.analysis. the comment there that many in the international community had accepted, he said, a status quo when it came to israel and the situation with hamas. your thoughts on that. i situation with hamas. your thoughts on that.— situation with hamas. your thoughts on that. i mean, i think that's _ thoughts on that. i mean, i think that's right. - thoughts on that. i mean, i think that's right. they - think that's right. they thought the caledonian conflict was in a box. you have seen lone wolf attacks in the past few years. —— the palestinian conflict was in a box. they have been pretty good at keeping hamas, hezbollah�* and islamichhad at bay. israel was working towards normalisation, the abraham normalisation, the abra ham accords normalisation, the abraham accords with their neighbours, and israel thought, hey, our security's going to be saved, we are going to be ok in the region. but itjust goes to show you, until there is a solution to the palestinian conflict, israel's not going

with me is elise labott, contributing editor for politico magazine and founder of zivvy media.re also joined by barbara starr. thank for being with us tonight. , we have heard those comments from prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying, we are at war and we will win this war. what do you anticipate, with your expertise, your years reporting there on the ground, what do you anticipate happening next? what do you anticipate hauenina next? ~ happening next? when you say ou want happening next? when you say you want to — happening next? when you say you want to go _ happening next? when you say you want to go to _ happening next? when you say you want to go to war - happening next? when you say you want to go to war and - happening next? when you say you want to go to war and you | you want to go to war and you want to win, that means you want to win, that means you want a victory. what will that entail? there will be some kind of ground incursion into gaza. prime minister netanyahu has been very reluctant over the last few years with hamas. in 2008, another conflict in gaza, he h

i am joined in the studio once again by elise labott and also joining us now from kentucky is laureno just want to start by getting your reaction to what we appear to be seeing unfold over the course of the day. unfold over the course of the da _ “ unfold over the course of the da . ~ ., day. so, we knew that eventually _ day. so, we knew that eventually something | day. so, we knew that i eventually something of day. so, we knew that - eventually something of this magnitude was likely going to happen. every single day we were assessing, we thought they might be a bigger incursion. obviously the israelis are saying at the moment this is not the big ground invasion necessarily, however, what we are seeing now obviously is incredibly unprecedented, the bombardment on gaza, in the fact there are no communications for palestinians in gaza, so, on the one hand, you are sort of expecting at least something every single day but on the other hand, i'm not entirely sure a lot of people fully understand how palestinians must be in a state of panic at the moment. coming to ou, of panic at the m

elise labott is contributing editor for politico magazine who covered the israeli—palestinian conflictse of two further hostages, which make for in total. what is your reaction to that? this which make for in total. what is your reaction to that?— which make for in total. what is your reaction to that? as we've been talkin: your reaction to that? as we've been talking about. _ your reaction to that? as we've been talking about. it _ your reaction to that? as we've been talking about, it is _ your reaction to that? as we've been talking about, it is very _ your reaction to that? as we've been talking about, it is very good - your reaction to that? as we've been talking about, it is very good news . talking about, it is very good news that this process, whether it is with qatar or egypt, that this process of negotiation with hamas is bearing fruit. i will note that these are two israeli citizens, they were not dual nationals, so there was a feeling that may be hamas would start letting out foreign nationals or dual nationals first, and these two elderly women i understand are not in good

with me is elise labott, founder of zivvy media. great to have you all with us., you are covering president biden's trip. if i can ask first, what exactly are you expecting the president to say? i what exactly are you expecting the president to say?— president to say? i think this seech president to say? i think this speech is _ president to say? i think this speech is critical _ president to say? i think this speech is critical for - president to say? i think this speech is critical for the - speech is critical for the president, as he is seeking a significant aid package from congress, as you mentioned, north of $100 billion to cover a number of foreign policy challenges. of course the most pressing in the eyes of the administration being aid to both israel and ukraine, as they each deal with their independent conflicts, and then this aid package will also cover taiwan and the us border with mexico. i think the border with mexico. i think the border piece of it being something to try and earn some republican support. it really, what the speech is also about is