. >> host: also joining us is eliza krigman of "politico," a technology reporter there. if i could start, mr. levin, it's been about a year since the national broadband plan that you spearheaded was introduced to the country, give us your assessment of the past year and its progress. >> guest: well, first, you have to understand what the plan really was, and what the plan was was an agenda setting and target clarifying device. it was supposed to say, here's the things that we need to do over the next few years, and also here are targets we either need to shoot for or shoot at. here's to say there's concrete proposals to move us towards action. in that way, it's been a very, very successful year. every debate that's going on with the exception of dates about mergers are really debates that are very -- about how cowe accomplish the goals of the broadband plan. i think in terms of agenda setting, it did prove to be a very unifying and consensus kind of document, that everyone, the stake holders kind of agreed the kinds of things, universal service reform, rights of way refor