elizabeth warren, much more than hillary clinton. >> and elizabeth warren turned out to be leading much more than the left flank. 139 democrats voted against the bill. only 57 democrats voted for the bill. let's listen to what she said this morn on the senate floor. >> a vote for this bill is a vote for future taxpayer bailouts of wall street. when the next bailout comes a lot of people will look back to this vote to see who was responsible for putting the government back on the hook to bail out wall street. as you head out the door and a spending bill must be passed, are you making it a priority to do wall street's bidding? who do you work for? wall street or the american people? >> christina, elizabeth warren got 139 democrats in the house to follow her. how many senators will line up with her? >> well, what's really important to know at about this is yes, the house passed the bill, but harry reid said they're going to pass a short-term continuing resolution to keep the government open to give the senate time to debate this measure tomorrow. so anything could happen. when it comes to

elizabeth warren, she is the voice of a new, more strident left. she was back on the senate floor last night railing, again, against the provision in the bill that would get rid of the key part of the wall street reform law passed after the meltdown. >> here we are, five years after dodd/frank, with congress on the verge of ramming through a provision that would do nothing for the middle class, do nothing for community banks, do nothing but raise the risk that taxpayers will have to bail out the biggest banks once again. >> and here's republican senator lindsay graham with his response to that. >> so, to my good friend from massachusetts, there's something in here you don't like. welcome to democracy. >> consider this a preview of things to come. this may end up being the defining fight in american politics as we head into 2016 campaign, one leading to alliances you rarely see. just to get the bill through the house on thursday night, and barely at that, we had house speaker john boehner and president obama both teaming up, both working on their ow

caller: i think elizabeth warren, aneurysm i like elizabeth warren is because we need some new blood in there, and i have nothing against hillary clinton or anything, but it would be nice to see someone new, especially if jeb bush actually decides to run. i think the democrats would be wise to get elizabeth warren up there on the ticket. that is what i think. look at this tweet or listen to this tweet, this is -- what aboutic jerry brown in 2016? he just got reelected in california. what do you think about that? like that as well actually. jerry brown also would be a good choice. again, i have nothing against hillary clinton or bill or anything, but i just think you know, jerry brown, elizabeth warren, i think those would be great to choices for stop think that is what the democrats need, and yeah -- host: jake, what to do you do in omaha? caller: i go to school. i am a student. host: what are you studying? caller: i am studying law at cretan university. host: thank you, sir. joy in louisiana. hi. caller: hi. let me tell you, i am a clinton fan and i always supported the clintons, ho

about elizabeth warren. but i also think she's going to occasionally interrupt president obama's dreams when she thinks he's making a deal with john boehner or mitch mcconnell that she doesn't think it a good deal. i think what happened in this fight, there were a lot of democrats who said, we've given a lot on funding. we got some things here, we lost some things here. they understood that president obama wanted to lock in certain funding. when you had these two provisions here, one, the beginning of the unraveling of the financial reform, and this campaign finance provision that's going to allow wealthy couples to give up to $3 million to the parties over an election cycle, a lot of people said that these two things are really worth bringing this bill down for. chris van hollen said it's the only bill with the quid and the quo in it at the same time. so i think elizabeth warren will call them like she sees them and occasionally will make democrats uncomfortable. >> joan, will her presence in challenging so

elizabeth warren is not going to stop her.re is no way that this woman who is everything that a radical liberal democrat looks like. an extremist. she can't tell the truth about her heritage. there's no way that she would derail hillary clinton. i mean, i think democrats are setting their sights on her, and i do have to agree with alan to some degree. she would look like a moderate or a centrist. >> hillary would. >> compared to elizabeth warren. >> they would want to position hillary clinton in the senate. >> i think he is right. it would make hillary look almost like an elder states woman compared to this -- >> seemed like we went -- your words. i feel like we went back in time, bill. we could be having the same discussion and change out elizabeth warren for barack obama. nobody thought he really had a chance either. >> well, the real story is -- >> oh. oh, right. he did it. >> i guess he'll be back. >> back next week. >> it's that, you know, there's so much mojo going with hillary clinton that i just can't imagine. >> an it

elizabeth board is doing that.n't want to make the poor richer, she wants to make the rich poor. that message why let resonates with her base won't resonate across the country. in the one she is the anti margaret thatcher arrived do believe. thanks very much. see you again soon. i want your opinion and that of other millennials if you can encompass it all. on wall street there is considerable hostility to wall street for most sectors of society. what about youngsters? >> extremely. they would rather go to the dentist and listen to the big bank. i would rather listen to the big bank but millennials to not like wall street. stuart: i am astonished at this. it reminds the what happened after 1929. you don't remember is that. that was an awful stock market crash. wall street was a dirty word. people heeded wall street until the 1950s. heaven forbid we have the same thing today. >> fantastic parallel because that is why millennials don't like wall street. their frame of reference was the great recession and that was put

that's what this elizabeth warren wing wants to see.ks like move on.org. >> nancy pelosi is the toughest leader. tougher than tip ever was. very tough and people like her. she has that magic machiavellian thing, not to be hated, just feared. which is where you want to be. >> yes. >> okay, why is she moving away from the president as we speak? >> she's moving away from the president partly because, and remember, she was a big foot soldier for obama. his agenda couldn't have passed without her. but she's also sensing that she's been cut out by this president, but also she senses where the winds are going too. >> and the president made a big mistake. and that was, he showed his cards too early. >> that's right. yeah. >> too early. >> explain. >> when he said, i will sign this bill -- >> they sort of gave away the store before they got to the table. >> so it had this give me written by citigroup, which rolls back the tough stuff in dodd-frank to stop the crap that happened -- i hate to use cheney's word -- the stuff that happened after 2008

elizabeth warren is always, you know, talking about the little guy. i would like to hear elizabeth warren talk about the small business little guy who does the most hiring of the little guys in this country. >> she's the queen of -- >> sets herself apart from hillary clinton, because she already has said on the record -- although she clarified -- she doesn't think that little guy is bidding jobs. >> she's the queen of you didn't build that. what we did, harris, we've got to call her on this, she also was anti-government shutdown when republicans wanted to do it, but pro-government shutdown when it suited her last night. >> yeah. you know, i didn't actually hear her say the word shutdown. what she said was, let's fight. the timing was interesting because i sent around to our team last night an e-mail from our chief white house correspondent ed henry that said, hey, look, i'm witnessing this right now, an official telling us the president and the vice president are calling around to house democrats trying to scare up votes. then you have a senator, righ

this is elizabeth warren's moment. defining fight in american politics right now is about soaring inequality in a system where wall street and special interests can write the rules to benefit themselves. that's the defining fight of elizabeth warren's life. she was made for this moment in american history. and that's why wherever she goes in the country, she brings giant crowds to their feet. we need her in this presidential race. we think it will make whoever the nominee is, stronger, and we think she'd be an amazing president. >> i think his motives are a little different, maybe a little more left-leaning. thank you both for joining us. i want you to start because you're a reigning politician. first of all, i think you can be a really great senator for life and do great things, like phil hart did years ago. the greatest work he did on consumer everything. you don't have to be president to get great things done. but explain to me what looks to be your root. what does she do if she doesn't stay in the senate? >> i want

elizabeth warren, we're always hearing the big challenge from the left could come from elizabeth warrens a gap of 55 points. remember, obama was running 18 points behind hillary clinton at this point in 2006. elizabeth warren 55 points behind. look at this, joe biden. this is sitting, two-term vice president of the united states. we just talked to chuck todd and chuck todd talked about how barack obama has this special partnership and this is not like an estranged vice president. a two-term vice president running 56 points behind and bernie sanders and andrew cuomo, if he ever were to run. this, this is a frontrunner like we've never seen. to put that, even a little bit more for you there, hillary clinton her favorable score among democrats. 93%. vi virttual unanimously. i'm not saying she's unbeatable or unstoppable. elizabeth warren made a big stand and a lot of liberals talking about her. we'll see how this plays out. we'll talk about it later in the show. but starting out as we talk about 2016 and hillary clinton, the one thing we need to keep in mind, she is not in the same positio

elizabeth warren on one hand, nancy pelosi vocal against some of the provisions of this bill that had to do with wall street, that had to do with campaign finance but ultimately they lost but they're flexing muscle and doing themselves some good. elizabeth warren very much out front stoking more speculation she'll run for president and ted cruz saying i'm ted cruz and i'm all about ted cruz. >> is it all about ted cruz, is he running for president? i'm old enough to remember in the old days even if you were going to defy your leader in the senate, you drop by the office and you told him you were going to do it or gave him a phone call and edds up. mitch mcconnell was surprised, stunned by ted cruz. what's the carryover? is this a one-off for this spending bill or does it carry into next year? >> all indications are cruz will continue this next year whether it's on immigration or other issues. it's important to remember the number that matters in the senate is one. one senator can hold things up or slow things down. that's what he did this week. he inevitably raised money. he certainly

here are ways to regulate, i believe elizabeth warren. and she doesn't believe that they should be paying the tab. i know that she became senator before being secretary, and supported dodd/frank, and gave them the liability rather than giving them that themselves. >> given that the economy is going to boom, this huge gap between the wealthy and the working class, how big of a challenge is that for anybody who runs for president? >> well, income disparity is greater now than any time in this country, and the exact data has not showed that the middle class has gained while the super wealthy has gained tremendously. and senator clinton during the fall campaign was using the very language, with the squeeze on the middle class, as was senator warren. i don't think that the label of popularrism, or anti-wall street, or whatever those labels mean, is really going to be an issue between senator warren and senator clinton. senator warren said that she's not running for president over and over because she doesn't have any differences with hillary c

elizabeth? >> all right, terry, thank you so much. as you said, those black boxes are crucial. but even before they're found, the debris is providing insight into what may have happened in the plane's final moments. abc's david kerley is on the early stages of the investigation and is here with me now with more on that. >> reporter: elizabeth, even though the remains of this aircraft have not been found, the parts, the debris, is already yielding significant clues to experienced investigators. a suitcase. an oxygen tank. an uninflated emergency slide. these pieces of the airbus a-320 and those floating on the java sea, all clues to why this aircraft crashed. what do they tell us? so far, the bodies found did not have life vests. that could indicate the jet broke apart at altitude. the crew didn't have time to communicate trouble or passengers didn't have time to put them on. do those pieces of metal wreckage have burn marks, suggesting fire or explosion? the way the metal is pulled apart, its ed

and get this elizabeth. now, southern california parts of it have more snow this season than new york city. happy new year. >> happy new year to you, too, ginger thank you. and among all those people in times square there is an intense police presence. officers in new york and across the u.s. are on high alert tonight, in response to the ongoing threats against police around the country. additional resources are being called in as protesters plan to march against police violence at the height of tonight's celebrations. abc's gio benitez is in times square. gio? >> reporter: elizabeth, good evening to you. this is the epicenter of new year's eve in american. thousands of police officers are right here. tonight, as more than a million people pack into times square with the eyes of the world watching police out in force. not just looking out for the safety of partygoers -- they're always watching their own backs. the fbi sending out this bulletin warning police around the country to be vigilant following the as

carl cameron join us tonight. >> elizabeth warren is testing how much juice she's got. she's making herself a major player and she's been doing it all week. it is gutsy for a senator to tell house members how to vote but that's exactly what she's done all week. she's been fiesty and populist. it looks like she's taken a page from gop senator ted cruz's playbook. he pushed house republicans to shut down the government and now he's actively positioning for a white house run. so this isn't a bad move politically for elizabeth warren and she's holding sway at least at this hour. >> warren says, though, she's not running for president. >> yeah, but an awful lot of liberals, a, don't want to believe that. b, they are looking for an alternative to hillary clinton and, c, they think warren might be coy and bieding her time. ready for warren is organizing in states and this beak they got a big boost. two major grassroots groups have joined the warren bandwagon, moveon.org. has 8 million members and is donating a million bucks to move on warren. it has to gall clinton. now, the o

i think elizabeth warren is right.hey have the sellout for those calls and the derivatives and gotten dog frank. and they did nothing about the animosity. so these core people are really enraged. >> when will the democrats realize it next year? >> they'll lose the senate -- >> will they leverage? >> right. >> they'll lose the senate! >> yeah, the white house was we liz beth warren on the sub -- elizabeth warren on the substance of the objections. to not allow big banks remove another provision that cramps their style. but the white house made the cuts calculation that if if the democrats forced a government shutdown over this, they'd get blamed. and next year, it'll be worse. but we're seeing is the elizabeth warren wing of the party asserting itself. and there's a lot of energy around that. >> uh-huh. >> and i think it really does predict next year's politics. and hilary clinton who's still the punitive nominee on that side, will have to figure out how to come up with an economic policy that takes into account the ang

elizabeth warren is the devil. [laughter] so they're going to put any money that they have behind hillary clinton which should be a help, but it'll be interesting to see because she's capitalizing on this moment in time, elizabeth warren -- >> but it's populist, bernie. i have to give elizabeth warren some credit. >> oh, yeah, a lot of credit. >> she's giving the big banks a break for their -- >> we can also, we can all get behind that. >> i know. but boil that down to a sound bite, melissa. it's a political winner. >> we all hate the banks because of what happened four or five years ago -- >> no, we don't. speak for yourself. >> okay, i'll speak for myself. i liked what she did in the senate, personally. but when they shine a light on this lady, you don't rise to the top at harvard, she's a radical leftist. you're going to find out stuff about her, so i hope she runs. she probably has posters plastered all over her bedroom. she's academia, harvard, radical left. [inaudible conversations] >> that's why we want, i w

hillary clinton on the rifgd and on the far left is elizabeth warren.krauthammer says stand back, let them fight it out. >> what did you say about charles again. >> here's the problem with charles' comment in that bill was funding for obama's amnesty and the far right is really ticked off at boehner for letting that go through. for letting them keep that in their funding bill. that's where president obama gets the $4.5 million. >> on the technical side of things on that point, i think, kimberly, until you have more power, so in january, what would have happened is harry reid would have put up a clean bill and you wouldn't have had any sort of policy changes, even though they were incremental and very unsatisfying. it also funds obama care which people are not happy about. >> to me, this is just a big shift in the democratic party to a very populous message, i agree with charles, sit back and watch them just wreck each other, and even more impressed at elizabeth warren because she can actually speak out of both sides of her mouth.u >>> r. >>> woe're sayi

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that being said, you have elizabeth warren, the new darling, right? you have hillary, whose biggest asset is bill clinton, and she still has benghazi and health care and all that. i think it'd be exciting if they get in there and push elizabeth warren forward and battle -- >> fight it out. >> meanwhile -- >> bring it on! >> meanwhile, lest you don't think we're fair and balanced -- [laughter] another sign former florida governor jeb bush is serious about a 2016 run for president. he's now reportedly stepping down from the board of a health care company. this after stepping down from his role as an adviser to barclays capital. you'll remember just recently bush announced over twitter he's exploring a run for the white house. so, harris, let me go to you. that company that he stepped down from made an awful lot of money off obamacare. is that going to -- excuse me, whoa. jeb bush if he runs -- [laughter] >> there's the problem. [inaudible conversations] >> i i think that was a mistake. [laughter] [inaudible conversations] >> would you allow me to do som

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elizabeth warren strikes all the right tones.t amazingly is frustrated with the policies of barack obama. >> i have a different theory. this could actually in the end help hillary clinton because all we've been talking about recently from the blogs and everything else has been how the inevitability is hurting her right now. every time she opens up her mouth, it's like the gap monster. what if you had a scenario, where chuck schumer are saying they're not that constructive. then would it be hillary is destructive? takes the focus off hillary clinton being the lightning rod. there is a flip side of this. >> i do think in some way, not just taking her out of the lime light to be the frontrunners. that always helps. but if elizabeth warren talks more and more about some wacky things she believes, that's going to make hillary clinton seem more reasonable. if you want to druj you mean some of the far left theories and they will, that's exactly what hillary clinton wants. pete, i want to ask you, i think if bill clinton ran today, i'm n

and if elizabeth warren doesn't go now, when does she go? new but you don't always get these shots. she won't get much hotter than this. >> i think that's a relevant point. it makes me think back to barack obama when he was in his first term and there was a lot of energy wanting him to run. >> it is a completely different situation in material of age. but i do think the grassroots energy is there and sometimes you have to run. maybe it is not the right time or the perfect moment but maybe you have to do it. >> i would did it agree with you. i believe it. her age isn't really relevant. >> the political consultants would say, i think you can run and do great things. >> look at jerry brown in california. >> the guys that choreograph politics are going to say now or never. now or never. and does she resist? >> maybe more women should choreograph politics and then they'll shut up about this. >> right on. i agree. >> i'm not going to argue with you on this panel. commissioner goodell says the new policy late. to be taken when there is an incident.

should elizabeth warren run for president this time around?ve to ask her that question. >> what do you think? >> i'm a great admirer of elizabeth warren and secretary clinton. and the others who are circling around -- >> you are a big help. that is why you are a politician. senator deval patrick, thank you for coming by. good luck for your stint in private life, but i suspect that we'll see you back. >> thank you. >>> a senate report concludes the cia committed torture against terror suspects. what now? house intelligence committee member peter king is here next. and the 45 highway mpg tdi clean diesel. and last but not least, the high performance gti. looks like we're gonna need a bigger podium. the volkswagen golf family. motor trend's 2015 "cars" of the year. they take us to worlds full of heroes and titans. for respawn, building the best interactive entertainment begins with the cloud. this is "titanfall," the first multi-player game built and run on microsoft azure. empowering gamers around the world to interact in ways they never thought

it's just as elizabeth warren said. it's the worst for the government and for the rich and the powerful. it's something that i don't think the american people in either wate part wanty want to see the government do. >> you know, elizabeth warren does not need move on.org advice to know how to stand up against wall street special interest. she has made extraordinary and bold decisions every day to battle the lobbyists. what she's show something you can stand and fight. you can change the game on this stuff. she had the idea for the consumer financial protection bureau, and now its law. we know she's going to be battling every day for the next two years and we hope for eight years in the white house for an economy that works for regular americans. rather than the top 1%. >> we know that elizabeth warren is well aware what the movement has done to draft her for president. what has been her response? >> we reached out to her office, and they said thanks for the heads up. senator warren said repeatedly she's not running for

of the elizabeth warren, joe biden, biden, run, joe, run, biden is beating elizabeth warren at 14%.ren caters to a very far left base. that will not have wide appeal. hillary clinton is sitting back. i know. that i realize a lot of -- let her run out there do what she has to do. i will sit back. hillary clinton knows every time she opens her mouth the numbers fall. she finally learned, let me sit back. let elizabeth warren keep talking, cater to the small population on the left. everyone else will realize they are too radical and no one else will be left and they will have to turn to me and no one on the right will be a challenge. >> dagen, is she pretty radical for general election run? this womans can raided around harvard claiming to be native-american. no one fact checked it. she is a little cookie, can we admit. >> one poll and that is wall street reform and finance. we haven't found out what she thinks, what shoe he would do on whole host of issues. i'm thankful for one thing, kim kardashian, her sizzle starts to fade she poses completely naked in a magazine. we know hillary c

wait, this elizabeth warren? >> we can avoid a government shutdown.ut the republicans have refused to do even that. these threats may continue, but they are not working. and they will never work because this is democracy. and in a democracy hostage tactics are the last resort for those who can't win their fights through elections. >> "hannity" is going to have much more on that. i'm megyn kelly taking your thoughts at facebook.com/thekellyfile. follow me on twitter. see you tomorrow at 9:00. >>> welcome to "hannity." this is a fox news alert. tense moments on capitol hill tonight. just moments ago the house passed the omnibus spending bill to narrowly avoid the shutdown. joining me on capitol hill fox news chief correspondent mic emanuel standing by. mike, john boehner needing joe biden, president obama, stenny hoyer and harry reid to pass a bill. >> you're right. vote was 219-206 including 57 democrats voting with republicans to pass this $1 trillion government extension. turning point seemed to be when stenny hoyer from maryland went to the house fl

the democratings between the white house and senator elizabeth warren.now, michael, melinda and hogan. i think this is one of those big nights in politics. i think the fact that senator warren, in a manner somewhat leek ted cruz saying cause of trouble. doe dee don't go along anymore. >> well, nobody wants to see a government shutdown. but, i don't think -- >> ted c rrruz wasn't afraid of one. >> but nobody wants to see a check on wall street and roll backs, either. it isn't just liberals on the hill. i don't think you see people say boy, i wish we'd get off the backs of wall street and carried interest. i think that's where the public is. there's a lot of that kind of populous feeling among ordinary republicans, monot the ones on e hill. >> well, one of the charges on the right, if the dem kraic party doesn't get populous, they're going to get snaked by the republicans. they'll come from the libertarian right saying you guys will be in bed too long. >> i think that's accurate. what's interesting to me is if you get this bill to the house rngs you're goi

. >> reporter: senators republican david vitter and democrat elizabeth warren, an unusual pairing signed a bill that would weak -- the house is impass lifted around 9:00 p.m. last night when democratictf -- ste hoyer split with nang si pelosi. >> i have concluded that it is better for us to pass this omnibus as it is you've family mist icalically keeping governm open and his lieder ship won't suffer any long-term damage. >> i think it's important that house republicans stay 208g9. if we're divided the person who hurts most is the president. the last -- that's why we have sweeping victories in the house and the senate. >> mike emmanuelle on the hill. >> president obama certainly has his reservations got the omnibus spending bill, he has said he will sign it if he gets the chance. but he would do it without the support of many in his party. chief white house correspondent ed henry has that part of the story tonight. >> if this was the first post election test of president obama's jooirs, he stumbled. he sent dennis mcdonough to twist arms behind closed doors, the vast majority of house de

for example, elizabeth warren saying this pr provision that effects dodd-frank in the bill, i'm going to fight that part of the bill. there was not much in the bill for the bases of either party. >> but on both scores it looked like they failed both those things that you named. >> yes. >> ask they know? >> that they were going to fail? yes, a lot of it is theater. on the elizabeth warren side i think what you're seeing, and you'll see it with the confirmation process in the new year's as well is a proxy fight in the democratic party between progressives and wall street. between those two rings led by elizabeth warren who interestingly the last version of this fight, which was the janet yellen portion, she has sat back on. now she has taken the lead on both of these saying we're going to have this discussion about which side we are on, wall street or main street. >> quickly before the break, that whole ted cruz pushing back on homeland security, did they think they were going--they funded homeland security on a continuing resolution. it's not part of the overall appropriation. >> i thi

joining elizabeth warren to fight the big bank give away.

elizabeth warren railed against this provision on the senate floor tonight.enator warren passionately urging her house colleagues to vote no on the bill if it holds this provision in it. to not give the republicans the votes they need to pass this thing. not as long as this thing is slipped into it. >> the house is about to vote on a budget deal, a deal negotiated behind closed doors that slips in a provision that would let derivatives traders on wall street gamble with taxpayer money and get bailed out by the government when their risky bets threaten to blow up our financial system. these are the same banks that nearly broke the economy in 2008 and destroyed millions of jobs. the same banks that got bailed out by taxpayers and are now raking in record profits. this is a democracy, and the american people didn't elect us to stand up for citigroup. they elected us to stand up for all the people. i urge my colleagues in the house particularly my democratic colleagues whose votes are essential to moving this package forward, to withhold support from it until thi

tonight's question, bill elizabeth warren push the democrats to the left in 2016? text a for yes, text b for no at 67622. i'll bring you the results later in the show. joining me now is michigan congressman dan kilde and don johnston. congressman, is this the future of the democratic party with elizabeth warren there? is she forcing the party more to the left? >> well, i'm not sure if it's left or right but it's certainly forward in the right direction. i, like elizabeth, feel that the dodd-frank provisions that were put in place after the financial crisis are there to protect the american consumer and the american taxpayer. it's one of the reasons that i voted against the cromnibus, but we also rewarded the wealthiest americans by giving them the ability to spend ten times the amount that they otherwise could to support political parties at the same time that we provide taxpayer support for wall street. for me it was a bridge too far. what senator warren is saying, i think, is the same thing many of us in the house are saying. it's what the american people wanting

and elizabeth warren is leading the charge now.arney frank is out there, too, by the way. >> he issued a press release from retirement today. >> very important element. >> you talk about motive, passion and spontaneity, elizabeth warren has that on this issue. >> that's right. >> and that makes her a pretty potent opponent for republicans to have on this. and boy, talk about tightwire, no net, funding the government a shutdown. >> everybody will be watching the rest of this week. and almost like she's the good knight versus the bad knight, ted cruz, when it comes to talking across the capitol to the other body and telling them what they should be doing. this is like ted cruz talkocauc with the red hots. >> elizabeth warren picks her spots. this is something she knows inside out. this is something she helped pass in the bill. >> -- that's how you become a great senator, from my experience. >> and a presidential candidate. >> pick the stuff you know. >> how about being a great senator. can't we just celebrate somebody who is doing th

and right now elizabeth warren is the leader of that. she's said repeatedly as you heard there, i am not running for president. and she sounds like she wants people to believe her, but at the same time, there's benefit for her not saying, i never will. because it increases her power and makes her more able to lead that charge regardless of whether or not she actually gets into the race. >> let me go back to michelle. you brought up populist. if elizabeth warren doesn't run, is there a figure that can come and emerge and lead that populist movement? do they have enough time to emerge? there's not a lot of natural alternatives. >> the democratic party doesn't have a huge farm team they've been considering. if hillary doesn't run, they have a big hole. but elizabeth warren is not only good with the message, she's got a lot of energy behind her. i think you have to have that to get attention to the trail. >> kasie hunt, michelle cottle, thank you both for your time tonight. >>> coming up, breaking news from that horrific terror attack on a s

should elizabeth warren run for president this time around?> you have to ask her that question. >> what do you think? >> i'm a great admirer of elizabeth warren and secretary clinton. >> you're a big help. that's why you're a politician. senator deval patrick, thank you for coming by. good luck in your private life. i expect we'll see you back. >> thank you. >>> a senate report concludes the cia committed torture against terror suspects. what now? house intelligence committee member peter king is here next. it's the time of year for making lists and checking them twice. this year we've been at the top of more awards list than any other car company... during the chevy year end event we hope to be put on yours. now during the chevy year end event, get the best offer of the year on this 2015 chevy malibu. find new roads at your local chevy dealer. [ male announcer ] you wouldn't ignore signs of damage in your home. are you sure you're not ignoring them in your body? even if you're treating your crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis, an occasional

>> if elizabeth warren gets in, the reason she gets in is because -- >> does elizabeth warren -- >> it'sout taxing the rich. >> does she have a foreign policy? >> it's all domestic. >> charles, philadelphia tribune, 300,000 in circulation in print. thank you for coming back. and you can be, too. when we return, let me finish with my best thinking about hillary clinton. wait until you catch this. you 'watching hard e "hardball" the place for politics. here's some news you may find surprising. we're for an open internet for all. we're for creating more innovation and competition. we're for net neutrality protection. now, here's some news you may find even more surprising. we're comcast. the only isp legally bound by full net neutrality rules. >>> let me finish tonight with my best thinking about hillary clinton. it comes down to three factors that an expert once told me are key to the success of any candidate. motive, passion, spontaneity. if hillary clinton wants to be president, she must ask herself why. what is the reason. how would the country and the world be different if she was to l

so here is elizabeth warren. turning the congress on a dime, on the issue of helping wall street. >> right. she did not care what president obama wants. they don't care and they've got marching orders from elizabeth warren who is pro shut down in this particular instance, leading the charge to get this thing shut down because that is what they think will happen if they can't get this thing passed. but elizabeth warren, you'll be shocked to hear did not always feel this way about the possibility of a government shut down. listen to her when it was republicans doing it. >> we can avoid a government shut down. republicans have refused to do that. these threats may continue but they're not working. and will never work because this is democracy. hostage tactics are the last resort for those who can't win their fights through elections. where this right wing minority hostage taking is all they have left. a last gasp of those who can v cannot cope with the realities of our democracy the time has come that those legislat