pastor elizabeth axtell is at st. mark's church lutheran church in the city. maggie henderson maggie henderson avenue, presbyterian church only joined by ralph rabbi singer later in the program. welcome ladies. >> thank you. >> it's a joy to have you here. what do to talk about? >> we want to talk about women in the ministry. here in the city and what we do our colleagues do and how great they participate in the life of the city. in their parish or synagogue or other institutions. >> terrific. awarded at st. mark's where is it? >> st. mark's is in the civic center area above city hall. we collect cathedral hill. it is a parish that has been around for over 160 years. we've been in that neighborhood for over 100 years. it's a vital active vibrant parish. here in san francisco. >> you've been there 17 years? >> a long time. >> not so long. >> reverend. making-year-old first first presbyterian. >> it's in sacramento. one of the oldest still active questioned churches in california. it's interesting. they've been there for a good long time. i've been the pastor fo