i'm not going to go off the stage and invite elizabeth baker up. but i know in my digging around in your work, you are deeply concerned about the state of public administration, those that are tasked with stewardship responsibilities in the government. and in the next robust phase of your life, you have committed yourself to doing something about it and trying to change the quality and support for those people who are serving in government. i'd like to get -- i'd like to share with the audience or have you share with the audience what you're doing on this. >> this is a long-time concern of mine on how they will improve public management and private administration. i think part of the problem and the ideological problem we have on both sides. neither is true. what we need is efficient government that can be widely supported and trusted. but that's what we need. government has reason to be efficient and effective and widely trusted. that is not what we have. they have taken a lot of these things asked. one of the questions is do you trust your govern

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elizabeth, you spoke to this company, the baker commodities company, they have a plant in hanford, californiae a cow tested positive for mad cow disease. what did you learn? >> well, here's what i learned, anderson. the way that it works at this plant, they only have dead animals, their carcasses, that are brought to the plant and they do the random testings. so they have hundreds of carcasses, they glow if and choose, let's say, 60. one of them turns out to have mad cow disease. and so what if they hadn't randomly found that animal? well, that animal would have been rendered into something. it might have been soap or chemicals or something that you and i would never eat, something that wouldn't harm us, but it might have been rendered into feed for livestock or poultry. ç >> and what does that mean? i mean, how dangerous is that? if it had been rendered into feed that livestock had eaten and people ate the livestock? >> right. here's why it should not theoretically have been a problem. there are rules, you're not supposed to take the brains of cows and turn them into animal feed. you're not

baker. >> well, elizabeth was talking about giving back, but i want to talk about it in a somewhat differenta lot of the reason why we're sitting around here with 8.2% unemployment, millions of people facing the loss of their home and, for that matter, a very large budget deficit is because those folks on wall street helped build up a huge housing bubble that collapsed and wrecked the economy. i think our obligation to give back to them would be a nice financial speculation tax. raise a lot of money for us, and it will give it to them. >> dean baker. mike lapham. >> well, we're not investing as a country in what we need to be investing in the future, so if you're in that top 5% in terms of your wealth or income, sign on to our letter and congress and obama. fair economy.org/open letter, and, you know, it covers these topics that we've been talking about, the bush tax cuts, capital gains, the estate tax -- >> the ultimate entrepreneurial activist, yes. >> sign up. >> rebecca? >> so i would say you have to get rid of the preferential rates on capital gains and dividends. the changes in income

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baker's retirement party. i do not know -- maybe he has some jokes. i do not remember that part. i remember he testified at elizabeth'sion to become a cabinet secretary. of course he quoted nathan hale when he said "i regret that i have but one life to give to my country's infrastructure." bob's beth stories were on bob. of course, jay leno always had a lot of fun with bob. one of my favorites was how he was a favorite -- he was a young congressman on the campaign trail and he wound up in ohio. of course, nobody knew him there. this was one of those lincoln day dinners. i wanted to get the crowd up, so they got him a local radio program when they started introducing bob, it was quite an experience. they said we want you to get to know our special guest that will be speaking tonight and i would like to tell you a little more about bob doyle. the tickets have been cut from $3 to $1. we want to of a young crowd from this young congressman and we are going to give away a tv set, but that will not occur until our speaker quits speaking and you have to be present to get the tv. about his background -- he is from kansas. he

baker's retirement party. i don't know, they get some viagra jokes, i don't remember that part last by a dinner one tiny at elizabethet secretary, and, of course, he quoted on that occasion nathan hale when he said, i regret that i don't have one wife to give to my country's infrastructure. but bob's best stories were on bob. there were a lot of them. of course, jay leno always had a lot of fun with bob. one of my fave once he don't on cell phones about how he was a young congressman and he was on the campaign trail and he wound up somehow or another in ohio. and, of course, nobody really knew him better, and this was one of those lincoln day dinners and to want to try to get the crowd up little bit. so they got it on a local radio program, and when they started to introducing bob, it was quite an expense because they said we want you to get to know our special guest who will be speaking at the dinner tonight. and i like to take a look at mark about bob doyle. [laughter] first of all the tickets have been cut from $3 to 1 dollar. we wanted to have a good crowd, vision congress for our are going to give away a free t