>> elizabeth cady stanton great, great granddaughter -- do i have that right? colleen jenkins, yeah, she came and we just had a ball. the historian of the cemetery put us in a golf cart and drove us around to the key burial sites. >> this is at night. >> no, no. [laughing] >> and want to get halloween. -- it wasn't yet. the historian insisted we stop at mrs. mackay is great which had fallen into serious disrepair. you can hardly read the inscription on the tombstone, and she insisted that i stand behind the tombstone and have a picture taken. she said, you have rescued her, and i was just -- >> wow. yes. >> johanna, is there a high society origin story about who, when and why the suffrages decided to wear white at their parade? >> there may be but i don't know what it is. i do know that harriet stanton blatch was a very intimate object, and there has been criticism in 1911 of the dallying by the suffrages parade in getting organized. so in 1912 she is issued orders sort of like a general issuing orders to the troops, you march on time. you will all wear white.

, when there was this terrible schism between the two branches of the movement in between elizabeth cady stanton and susan b anthony on the side and lucy stone and her husband henry blackwell on the other. stone and blackwell after the civil war are staunch abolitionists and they believe that the black men should be enfranchised first. the 15th amendment was given block for the right to vote which would ratify and then women can fight their vote. susan b and if they were going into the constitution we are going with them or else were fighting it. this split the movement for almost 30 years and they had rival organizations and deeply damaging for the cause. i was set out and i was going to be my dissertation topic. i was going to prove that susan b and elizabeth were horrible people and ruin the movement and support but it was so depressing [-left-square-bracke.[laughter] i wanted to start thinking about what finally worked and wanted to look forward to the positive news that women finally got to vote so i started researching the early 20th century to see what was going on and i started reading n