next next is elizabeth dougherty welcome. >> thank you for the opportunity to speak. i am the director of holy h2o on the bay area water stewards. i am a member of the advisory committee for bay area regional reliability. i do want to be really upfront in saying that i have a three-bedroom house in oakland that i rent out two of the rooms to people from the east coast who are -- to people who are not generally watch her conservationist at heart. in our house, lee 17-20 gallons a day. that is with growing an enormous food garden, eight or ten fruit trees and whatnots. i guess if we were thrifty, we might be able to meet the mark of one of your residence here that is down to 12 gallons a day i will go home and crack the whip. [laughter] >> so, i keep hearing this conversation that is really putting fish on one side, and humans in economics on the other side. so i don't want to call it exactly fake news, but perhaps a false dichotomy. in the sense that while we are specifically talking about salmon and smelts, there is something that those creatures do. they represent ke