elizabeth holmes was once the start up darling. her company promised to do away with painful sharp needle blood tests, replacing them with one simple pick of the finger. she had the look and the drive to become the youngest female billionaire, revered by entrepreneurs and politicians. she attracted big name investors. at one point henry kissinger, george schultz was on her board. there was just one problem. it was all a fraud. john brought down this house of cards. and his new book "bad blood" laying out his investigation into the scandal. he explained what first tipped him off and his pain taking pursuit of clues when he joined me this week from new york. >> welcome to the program. >> thank you for having me. >> so, look, we have announced your book "bad blood" is interesting. what got your attention? what made you delve into this story? >> well, i had covered health care at "the wall street journal" for the better part of ten years, and i read a profile of elizabeth holmes in the "new yorker" magazine in late 2014. she had rocket

so, theranos and elizabeth holmes first came on my radar when i read a profile of elizabeth holmes inthe "the new yorker" magazine in late 20 14678 she had become a celebrate, about a year or more since she had risen to fame and she had graced the cover of for money magazine and that was in the first time i discovered the company exist and this young woman founded it and then i learned of the company's valuation and of her great wealth, and there was a thing -- a couple things but one thing in particular that struck me is odd as i was reading that new yorker profile on the subway home from manhattan to brooklyn which was this notion at a 19-year-old college dropout with just two september -- semesters of chemical engineering just drop out and pioneered groundbreaking new medical science. this is happened before in silicon valley. there have been press dens with mark zuckerberg and bill gates and taught. thes how to code and program on a computer when they were young, legend has it that zuckerberg taught himself how to code on his father's computer when he was ten years old, and that's

he met with elizabeth holmes in 2010 and started to laugh tough questions to suggest they do like 50 patient comparison study and elizabeth did not like his suggestions at all after a couple of months they told. that walgreen we don't want this guy meeting anymore. peter had the meeting once a month or every week. they wanted him from the meetings and video conference calls. so the unspoken boys if walgreens did not exclude them from the meeting going forward then they would walk away. walgreens was terrified she would walk away then go to cvs it charge one --dash arch rival the walgreens think we are in a battle to the death with cvs and everything we do is through that prism. they were terrified and then strike a deal with them than they would regret that the next 20 years. so what is fear --dash fair to say that fear of missing out unfortunately played a big role to drop the ball and not exclude kevin hunter remains there consultant that was kept at arms length. his role made impossible for him to do his job and as a result they never vetted that technology and they also assumed th