elizabeth martin from sweden disappeared after going shopping in larkspur a 21 year-old into by some boots with her friends she never came home and 30 years later her remains are found in fremont off morrison canyon road. now investigators are reopening the case after her disappearance car discovered in oklahoma given by this man named henry coleman and the police are looking for this person of the chest. "the person of an address that detectives interview unfortunately at the time they were not able to develop enough evidence to arrest the subject at that time. detectives are in the process of translocate this individual and determined that these you still live. the use >> pam: prosecutor for stealing her car and that he and has a long criminal record including rape meantime investigators are in contact with elizabeth's family there in the process of having her remains returned to sweden. >> pam: of holy religious symbol stolen from a church in castro valley. crime under investigation by police in the area however church leaders tell crime has the what they are willing to do if the

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. >> for more than 30 years, family and friends of elizabeth martin wondered what happened to her. the nanny and college student was last scene shopping in larkspur landing. they have now confirmed that remains found were indeed those of the missing student. >> investigators still don't know how she dies or who is responsibility. they're looking for this man, henry coleman who is convicted of car theft after police found him in oklahoma driving the car that martinson took shopping. >> detectives are in the process of looking to find this individual. >> she was a beautiful girl blond. >> the owner of lark's shoes saying the student's disappearance really shook him. she came into the shop looking for dressy boots and she found them at a neighboring store. >> we'll hear from from the owner tonight at 6:00. we're told that martinson's host family does not wish to talk to the family, but her three surviving brothers in sweden are relieved that she will be returning home her remains being sent back to sweden soon. >>> hopefully some closure now, thank you, jodi. just in to our news room

her name is elizabeth martin son. she vanished 33 years ago. investigators have matched her dental records to human remains found in the east bay. nbc bay area's jodi hernandez is live in larkspur where she was last seen three decades ago, jodi. >> reporter: that's right. the student was last seen shopping here in larkspur landing, the owner of this shoe store remembers her well. besides a few hold-ups her disappearance was the scariest thing to happen here. tonight those touched by the case finally have some answers. >> i remember her. she was beautiful girl. blond. >> the owner of lark shoes has always wondered what happened to swedish foreign exchange student elizabeth martinson who disappeared after shopping in larkspur landing 33 years ago. he recalls the 21-year-old came into the shop looking for dressy boots. >> she bought the boots and she came and showed me. then she left. that i remember. >> now more than three decades later, investigators confirm the skeletal remains found in morrison canyon back in 2010 are indeed those of the missi

authorities say dental records determine the bones found in 222010 is that of elizabeth martin.y when she disappeared. a convicted rapist was convicted of auto theft. >>> ray mcdonald was cut from the bears after being accused of domestic violence. ray mcdonald didn't say much about the new accusations when he he was released on bail yesterday. police say they were called to a domestic disturbance at 3:45 yesterday morning. this incident involved a mother of his two-month-old child and there was no physical contact. the latest incident comes after his pregnant fiance accused mcdonald of hitting her in san jose last august. no charges were filed in that incident. now the chicago bears released a statement saying and i'm quoting we believe in second chances but when we signed ray we were very clear what our expectations were if he was to remain a bear. >> the fbi says it received anonymous phone threats against as many as six flights yesterday. in one case u.s. military jets escorted an air france flight into new york's jfk airport after a phone call suggesting a chemical weapon w

elizabeth warren kim. could bernie sanders or martin o'malley the former governor who may also run. in 1968 he ran against lbj. nobody gave him a chance. but he did well enough that robert kennedy knocked lbj out and robert kennedy got in because he was a more plausible president. could that similar scenario happen this time? >> it's totally possible. because while elizabeth warren continues to maintain that she is not running, what you have and i mentioned these groups out there, they are setting up this vast network in support of it, this sort of virtual campaign that's in waiting for the moment at which they can finally coax her to get in. and if it does there is going to be a lot of pent-up money and a lot of pent-up infrastructure right there waiting for her if she wanted to get in a little later in this race. >> so the left hand has this policy checklist for hillary clinton, basically. entitlements boom. rewrite the first amendment for campaign fund boom. are they getting that? >> i think they're going to get all of that and more. they're also going to get taxes to address inc

i'm allen martin in for ken bastida. >> i'm elizabeth cook. a very big worry tonight about steph curry. christin ayers was watching with fans who saw the superstar fall and held their breaths. the warriors may not have won tonight, but their biggest victory in game four was this moment. fans gave stephen curry a standing ovation after this nasty fall. [ audio difficulties ] [ audio difficulties ] >>> meanwhile in texas tonight crews are searching for 12 people missing after a vacation home was swept away by floodwaters. in houston a flash flood warning is in effect and as if the rain isn't enough, a tornado whipped through central texas today killing 1 man and destroying four homes. >>> it is the start of summer driving season, gas prices are on the rise, up one penny a day since mid-april. the nationwide average, $2.74 a gallon tonight. that's almost a buck less than last memorial day, but carter evan says drivers in california are paying at least $1 more than everybody else. >> the lowest i paid was 2.24 in missouri. >> reporter: john pope w

elizabeth warren to enter the race. people have been energized by the martin o'malley rallies that he has held around the state.he is here in a county that she won. and she is going to a place that obama won by 43%. she has to go connect with those people who did not have a connection with her eight years ago. >> did you notice anything different about how she's doing it this time than last time? >> short answer, no. it seems identical. >> entitled imperious, distance from people? the huge entourage? >> the nature of the events are very similar. >> if you could ask her a question today, what would it be? >> i don't know. i don't think i will tell you because then she will know. >> throw her off the scent. >> does she like the kind of tenderloin steak service -- tenderloins served here at smitty's that are thin and crispy? or do she liked the thicker ones that are served elsewhere? so that could be a question. >> do you think there is a hunger here? >> for smitty tenderloins? >> do you think there is a decent chunk of the iowa collector it that would consider it in a serious way? >> it could be a weird juxtaposi

martin. ken bastida has the night off. >> i'm elizabeth cook. juliette goodrich says this is the first of its kind lawsuit against bart because it involves the first bart officer killed in the line of duty. >> reporter: that's right. the family's attorneys filed the lawsuit in court. it is a typical legal document. but in an unusual move, the officer's wife also wrote bart a personal letter. she says her husband told her years ago what to do if anything like this ever happened to him. kelly smith was an officer at bart for almost 20 years when her husband detective tommy smith was killed in the line of duty. shot partner officer michael maize when the two were doing a probation search at a dublin apartment. >> if you are lucky to find the love of your life, hold onto it. >> reporter: we interviewed kelly the day after her husband was killed. now more than a year later, we are hearing from her again in the form of a lawsuit filed late today against the bart board and bart police department accusing deputy police chef ben saro of ignoring officer'

elizabeth warren. she's not in this presidential race. martin and is hoping to pick up votes on the left. >> you mentioned the baltimore protests. there were some protesters at this event, right? >> reporter: yes. in fact it's a group called the baltimore bloc b-l-o-c. they are upset with martin o'malley saying that when he was mayor of this city his police force was too aggressive in its arrests and he had a so-called zero tolerance crime policy. they were shouting at him that he was a liar allegedly on some of his policies they were trying to interrupt this event. martin o'malley was largely able to overcome that and i would point out it was a bit unscripted possibly some difficult moments for o'malley but on the other hand i have been at a lot of hillary clinton events. these small roundtable carefully scripted you don't see any protesters and outbursts there because it is so carefully orchestrated. in this case martin o'malley opened himself up public rally, had some protests but was also able to get his agenda out there. >> there are those

elizabeth warren to enter the race. people have been energized by the martin o'malley rallies that he has held around the state.here is a county that she won. she is going to a place where obama won by 43%. she has got to go to those places and connect with people who didn't have a connection with her. >> did you notice anything different about how she's doing it this time than last time? >> short answer, no. it seems identical. >> and small venues. >> if you could ask her a question today, what would it be active -- what would it be? >> i don't know. does she like the kind of tenderloin steak service committees that are thin and crispy and wonderful or do she liked the thicker ones that are served elsewhere? so that could be a question. >> do you think there is a hunger here? do you think there is a decent chunk of the iowa collector it that would consider it in a serious way? >> it could be a weird juxtaposition. i can't tell you how disappointed they are that they weren't elected to a huge statewide office in iowa. the fact that she is a she can really be an energizing force for iowa democratic voters. >> we

will happen within her own party unless a miracle happens, unless elizabeth warren is so emboldened i don't see anyone else showing up. martin o'mallee is nervous because of baltimore. bernie sanders can't raise that money. hillary clinton has a direct path. >> you don't think there'll be snowball, you have email, bloomen that wills issue on the state department libya, questions about the propriety of former corrections to the clinton foundation. you have the benghazi inquiry, it's a lot of stuff out there that we'll hear news about in months to come. >> most has been around for 20 years. i've been saying this if bill clinton was slick willy. hillary clinton is the teflon mum. things hit them and fall off their backs. i don't know why these things haven't harmed hillary clinton, but the public - not that they aren't aware of the scandal, it doesn't seem to have a bearing on whether they think she's qualified for the job. >> fascinating to watch. good to have you with us. >>> the new england patriots are closing the door on deflate-gate. the team owner said he will not appeal the million dollar fine or loss of draft picks. th

. >> elizabeth, we are at martin luther king jr.d, the intersection of pennsylvania avenue. and this is where this march has stopped. the plan stopped here. they've been moving through the streets. the crowd has been going and this has been moving on. they've been chanting black lives matter. one man with a bull horn earlier said as of monday the world must respect us making reference to the violence we saw on monday. but this has largely very much so been a very peaceful crowd, one that has gained steam. folks calling for justice. folks calling for justice against what they are saying are the racist police officers the killer police officers who they want to see convicted. so this is going to go down to city hall where there is also a rally going on elizabeth, even though there have been indictments in this case and we are now hearing all six police officers have been arrested and have posted bail. these folks continue to call for justice. they call for convictions. and they're not stopping. back to you. >> thank you very much rich

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she has the heat from the left elizabeth warren bernie sanders, martin o'malley isn't really to the left but he'll act like he is. so that's coming when he announces and so the natural reaction of a politician is to give them as brief as possible. she's not going to embrace a deal that hurts american workers and she'll wait and see when it's negotiated. that's a shield and a dodge and i would expect that ultimately when the deal gets negotiated she will be for it but she is going to as careful as possible. >> i understand the position she is in but while you're trying to make no enemies you can make no friends along the way too. >> i couldn't agree more. it is so transapparently political. we know where she is on this issue. she was trying to -- she was involved in the creation of the deal. so the idea that she is studying it and not sure what she thinks -- >> i'm fortunate enough to get mail all day long from media matter just so i know what they're thinking and i know how they're handling a lot of these things and yet it was that someone that said that the clinton wealth problem was go

i think in new hampshire there is a run group and elizabeth warren is not going to get in the race. it was thought those people would move to martin o'malley. he's been damaged by the events in baltimore. vote for sanders in the primary and vote for hillary in november. a lot of democrats are saying that. he has a potential to make a bit of a showing in some states. >> john, bernie sanders and i were in -- fought shoulder to shoulder against and a nafta and hoffman and everyone. but i will say bernie, i mean, he's standing up and he's right about the transnational corporations. they take all these jobs abroad and bring their products back free of charge. and everybody at the top makes an awful lot of money. the way to change that is put a tariff on the products coming back into the country, cut the taxes on signal businesses that produce in -- small businesses that produce in the country and some of these fat cats will come running home. >> bernie sanders talks about the language of make making the rich pay their fair share. the way to address income and inequality is to address social mobility. he has this idea of a socialist uto

martin o'malley doesn't have the money or charisma. when the biggest city is ruined by rioting, you don't have a chance. elizabethren is the only person that can have an impact on how hillary clinton runs. as long as she stays out of the race she has a clear path to the presidency. i understand the tendency to deride chance but there's a point where some others will be standing on a stage. a stage not tilted to one side or the others. doesn't that give them a chance to let it fly in an equal toe to toe way, with someone who is a household name in the united states. >> unfortunately, no the main reason why is because we have seen this for 15-20 years, no one has begun to swing an election by how well they performed in a debate. not when you are at the primary stage. you may raise your own profile, you may go from 8% polling to 1% polling, but we have -- 12% poll of course, but we have never seen instances where the front runner is harmed. the likelihood that bernie sanders could do excellent is high. the likelihood it could hurt hillary clinton is not likely. what does it tell you that the notes, the themes are so

elizabeth warren mantle. o'malley has his work cut out for him. john: we will have our joint scouting report coming out tomorrow. on martin o'malley.both agree on this. he is a guy that has positioned himself a little to the left of hillary clinton, but not far enough to the left to capture the heart of the far left of the party. he needs an economic platform this is more distinct from hillary clinton and as distinctive as bernie sanders' platform or else he will not have enough of a chance to pick up insurgent votes on the far left. mark: here's the thing about martin o'malley -- he is super talented. there have been almost no days this year where he has shown how talented he is. there is a reason why bill clinton singled him out years ago as somebody that can be president someday. he has to show that on a regular basis to overtake sanders. john: we have heard a little anecdotal evidence of people being excited in iowa. if it's going to happen for him, it will happen there. he is probably a better fit for iowa than bernie sanders. if he can catch fire there, he could have a chance. mark: speaking of bernie sanders, when he was 30

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. >> what he's really trying to do martin o'malley is find some space on the left wing. sort of the elizabeth warren wing running to the left of hilly onary on issues like trade. what we really heard from him was economic populism trying again to talk about the middle class. he has been struggling martin o'malley in the testing phase because he just has o not been registering in the national polls. but he is hoping a message like this will pull him upwards. >> listen. >> tell me how it is that not a single wall street ceo was convicted of a crime related to the 2008 economic melt down. not a single one. tell me how it is that you can get pulled over in this country for having a broken taillight. but if you wreck the nations economy, you are absolutely untouchable. >> you hear that reference to wall street reform. but also wrapping in the issue of taillights and people being pulled over. that was a direct reference to some of the anger of some of his former african american constituents when he was mayor here as well as governor of maryland. but after those riots in recent day, that has certai

in the 2016 race isn't going to be bernie sanders or martin o'malley or lincoln chafee the former rhode island governor it's probably these elizabethblasios, people that aren't running but people trying to get her to go as left as far as possible. that's fascinating. we're seeing elizabeth warren and bill de blasio do this on the economy, also the issue of trade, organized lay bror and progressives trying to push hillary clinton as far left as possible, so this is a fascinating development that hillary's top challengers aren't even the folks running. the senate will hold this procedural vote 2:30 eastern time today on the fast track trade authority bill. >> yeah my colleague frank thorpe, our senate producer on capitol hill says it's unclear whether it's going to get 60 votes or not. this is going to be a really tight, tight vote and you end up having a lot of republicans in favor but still enough republicans that might be opposed, where democrats are going to need eight to ten democratic votes to get the 60 votes needed. going to be interesting what happens at 2:30. >> the arab summit happening in washington, now saudi arabia is s

elizabeth warren wing of the party. the founders of ben and jerry's ice cream will be among those attending. martin o'malley has an expected announcement set for this coming saturday. here is more of mark halperin's focus group with democratic voters in iowa weighing in on whether senator bernie sanders, senator elizabeth warren or anyone else poses a threat to hillary clinton. >> she has competition. she's just crushing them right now. >> are any of you worried that if she doesn't have a big challenge, it could hurt her chances of winning? >> i'd like to see an elizabeth warren or joe biden in there to run against and maybe get a little more of a race that way. >> does anyone else share bill's wish on that that she get a tougher contest to kind of get ready for the general election? >> i think bernie sanders will surprise people. he'll have a bigger voice than he's given credit for. >> why do you think that? >> i personally like his policies. he does answer the questions. >> would you like his presence in the race to cause her to take more progressive positions? >> oh, yeah. >> do you think it wil

martin o'malley back tracking the entire democratic party. i'm old enough to remember when he was a deal c democrat. >> two words, elizabeth warren.ut elizabeth warren getting into the race and moving left, left, left. she will back track a lot more from that when she is done. >> i'm obsessed with elections and there is a big one across the pond. i've got to show you something here. less than a week away from that general election in the uk. it's going to be too close to call. the opposition labor leader is challenging david cameron to be prime minister. he sit helps party's line in stone. he unveiled a limestone slab he promised to place in the downing street rose garden should he become prime minister. it reminded me of what russ feingold did in 1972. he put it on his garage. he put his promises on his garage. it worked for feingold, i have to say. >> he knocked off his brother to get to that position. >> don't underestimate. >> his brother is doing a great job. the fact is he was the kind of anointed son and ed says no i'm going to challenge my own brother. i don't think he can be underestimated in terms of his passion and hard

martin o'malley, republican democratic candidates because they have had scandals and problems baltimore and brigitte gate that is really going to make life impossible. >> tough week. jason? >> elizabeth warren. the do not trust hillary clinton. elizabeth warren is the primary opponent hillary fears most. the loser is the city of baltimore. after rioting cities can take decades to come back if they come back at all. >> stick around though, we have a look at one of the unknown talents of one of the latest 2016 contenders to jump into the race. you don't want to >>> finally tonight, senator bernie sanders says is he in running for the white house. apparently he has some special talents up his sleeve ♪ loud music] >> corporate america says he wants to ♪ that's what we will do. >> madam president the six largest banks on wall street over $9 trillion. [type writer] >> now when an issue comes up that impacts wall street. >> conductor and typist exextraordinaire who knew? greta goes "on the record" right now. sean, live. >> thanks, megan. this is a fox news alert. tonight we have an exclusive interview with a colleague of the six officers who were charged in the death of freddie gray. now, i

enticing the likes of elizabeth warren and the others and just going to be progressive, you know, hate fest, what do you say? >> well, i think it won't be long for former governor martin o'malley gets in from maryland. jim webb is going to get in. neil: what about you? >> no. former governor of rhode island, chafee is going to get in. you're going to have maybe 15, 20 republican candidates and they're all going to be going for their niche or particular regions of the country like huckabee has the language for the right wing voters in iowa the south and others. it's going to be very unpredictable very unpredictable. neil: on the democratic side this is interesting, downing hillary clinton should be challenged? that she is too moderate and whether it's o'malley or bernie sanders or elizabeth warren or chafee, that she needs to driven left? >> well i mean she's a dye in the wool corporate wall street militarist she's never met a weapons system or a war she doesn't like. neil: don't be vague how do you feel about her, come on speak up. >> she will notice change her rhetoric. she will talk a little more liberal. she'll talk a little more about domestic, and then bernie san

elizabeth warren wing of the democratic party on wall street reform. a quick point i have to make just outside camera range. there have been a large number of protesters hitting martince brutality. those baltimore riots still very fresh on the mind. >> they are very fresh. ed henry, we'll be back to you at 1:00 p.m. eastern. bulls and bears, the cost of freedom, coming up next. >>> hillary clinton may have another challenger. but for the economy, it's one of these three trying to make things more challenging. bernie sanders suggesting a 90% top tax rate is what america needs. is he right or wrong? hi everyone this is "bulls and bears." here they are, the bulls and bears. gary b. smith, jonas, john lakefield, along with ashley prat and jamut green. welcome, everybody. john returning to the 90% top tax rate is that a point of no return? >> absolutely. france tried what they called the supertax and the economic minister of

case i think martin o'malley sees an opportunity to go a little bit left of hillary clinton while not quite as left as senator bernie sanders. so i do think there's a little bit of an elizabeth warren space in him. i like senator bernie sanders but he's pretty left of left. and elizabeth warren sends to be more like governor o'malley very progressive but not quite as self-proclaimed socialist as bernie sanders is so -- >> wow. wow. elizabeth warren is more in the middle. this is an interesting spin. >> but we're talking about an underdog. his numbers aren't that great and he's running against the clinton machine. >> that's right. that's right. look i think liz got it right, elizabeth warren is the best democrat in the field, she's just not going to run most likely. who she endorses i think is huge. every day that hillary clinton doesn't have that endorsement makes people wonder how much on lockdown does she have that part of her party the progressive liberal base of her party. martin o'malley has open to him all the democrats out there that think that bill clinton and hoik are establishment figures and they're not really progressive leaders and they look at hillary clinton,

elizabeth cook in for veronica de la cruz. >> and i'm ken bastida. californians didn't even come close to meeting water conservation goals. you will be pulling your hair out hearing that. but kpix 5's allen martint the failing grade on our water report card. everybody i know is trying to save water, allen. how can this be? >> some of us thinking we're doing all we can. what more can we do?! state water board leaders say we saved less than 4% in march compared to last year a far cry from the governor's target of 20% savings. overall savings is only about 9% since last summer. the state also said water districts aren't doing enough to limit that water waste. today was the last chance for water districts to plead with the board to cut back even less. a southern california representative tried to argue that keeping greener lawns helps fire prone areas. >> reducing this irrigation to meet our goal not only puts public health and safety at risk but also creates a financial hardship to all of our residents. >> we're beyond the worst case in our area. >> reporter: the board listened to hours of discussion but it wasn't swayed. the board plans to move forward with new water restrictions in june. cities

elizabeth warren type democrats and bernie sanders sings their tune. so i think yes, absolutely but don't also forget we have not yet heard from governor o'malley martinley from maryland. i think he will get in the race. >> okay. then there are people in fact that believe that perhaps the reason that sanders is actually throwing himself into the ring might be because he wants to bring up issues that he feels very important that need to be raised and perhaps he's actually running perhaps to help hillary? is that something that you could see? do you think he's really in it to win it? >> he wants to win it for the democratic party no matter who gets the nomination. >> i think he would love to see a democrat over a republican no doubt about it. but bernie sanders is fwoernor bernie sanders. he is a democrat when he wants to be obviously, going into this race but look he's going to hurt hillary to help himself. >> wait a minute. bernie sanders is not out for bernie sanders. i know the man. >> come on. please. >> what's he out for? >> i think he really has principles that he truly believes in. i know the guy. i have a report on radio stations in vermont for

elizabeth warren feasibly would have occupied if she had run. if you're looking for a hatchet guy i think that's going to be martin o'malley who's going to get inrogressive position and doesn't want it clouded by personal attacks. >> i think we're going to see definition of personal attack because he's really sharp on the stump about millionaires and billionaires and about trade. and he's already gone after the clinton record on trade. he's described president obama's transpacific partnership as just another part of a nafta and chinese trade which are clinton era trade deals. he's going to come after her pretty hard just might not be personal. >> i think the question is if he starts to move if you see him moving in the iowa polls does he get a bit more personal? does he draw more daily and repeated contrast? that's the interesting thing to watch about bernie sanders as he gets going. today in south carolina hillary clinton will be there so will carly fiorina. she's going to do an event outside of hillary clinton's hotel to take questions from reporters. it's a bit of a stunt, but she's trying to draw attention to the fact i'm willing to take qu

martin o'malley say anything that would offer a different trajectory for the race? >> looks like he wants to come at her from the left trying to connect with the elizabeth warren groosts energy out there. the problem is that to the extent there's an appetite for that kind of alternative to hillary clinton, bernie sanders has really tapped into it already. you see in that poll i know it's early but the fact that sanders is sitting at 15%, he's gotten traction. o'malley has no traction. if you look at that as a matchup between o'malley and sanders to play that role against hillary clinton, it's very hard for me to see martin o'malley beating bernie sanders at that. that's bernie sanders' game. economic populism. he calls himself a democratic socialist. tough to get to the left of that. >> absolutely. did you hear anything with this announcement, that gives you a sense of the kind of candidacy he'll run? >> he's trying to be the progressive alternative but i think we should be talking about his record in baltimore when he was the mayor and how that is going to impact his run now in a negative manner because of the zero tolerance policies. that's something that's going