this belonged to elizabeth monroe. this is something she would've worn around the turn of the century. something that is interesting about this, if you look at this, this shoe here, okay? this shoe belongs to elizabeth monroe's mother. look at this. this would've been just a couple decades later, you can see how radically the styles changed. it works in the sense that if you can imagine, elizabeth monroe with her husband going to europe back in those days especially the mid-1790s the first time europe was, they didn't know what to make of us. most of them thought that we would fail, most wondered who are these upstarts. we were more popular with france we went over there -- they might have been expecting the americans to show up barefoot, who knows? did not know what to make of this new american country. in a sense it was important to wear styles that were reflective of the society where you are going. being ambassador to france, he would want to wear something that was the latest fashion, especially in the position of

imagine you are elizabeth monroe. so imagine for a second. you are elizabeth monroe. and you are accompanying your husband over to france in the mid to be this mid-1790s. you know you your company over there on now you were born into you know modern wealth your father lawrence courtright who's a wealthy merchant. so it's not crazily opulence, you know, you're not you're not completely unused to you know, you know the opulence of paris and everything, but it would have been something to see it would have been overwhelming you go over there and the time the climate of the time. okay. imagine this okay the climate of the time you're getting you're right with the the waning part of the committee of public safety. okay, you're right at the waning part of that. so you're in the 1790s in france, and there was executions going on. there was craziness going on. okay, you are there's an aura of paranoia that was happening in paris and france at the time, you know, people were getting executed. all right left the people were getting killed, you know in person france and not just

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