there is kristin, amy klobuchar, a lizabeth moran -- elizabeth mwarren. >> you have known both clintonsor a long time. just describe your sense of where hillary clinton's head is at on the precipice of a presidential run and where bill clinton's head is at? >> her head is that it's her term. that's the major rationale. i've paid my dues and put up with a lot of crap. i've put up with bill. bill says she is my wife and gives me the opportunity to be in the white house again. those were great times. let's do it again. for bill, it's like the rolling stones doing a tour at age 70. he wants to go back on the road. >> if she runs, you want her to be the next president. >> absolutely. whoever the democrat is, i want them to win. >> have you heard from other democrats about what you said? >> several indicated that she needs to be tested. if she gets through a tough primary and wins, fine. this entitlement, this anointment, this coronation is not good for the party. i had lunch with a woman today that said it's time we had a woman and you shouldn't be attacking hillary and made it very clear th