elizabeth newman was a senior homeland security official under trump. she today publicly confirmed olivia troye's account of how this happened inside the trump administration. at the highest levels the trump administration deliberately sabotaged visa process for these allies, which is why so many of them have been stuck all this time. some of this has been hiding in plain sight. in 2019, a federal judge ruled that the trump administration actually broke the law by radically dragging out the process of administering these, and refusing to give answers to afghans and even members of congress who were inquiring on behalf of afghans who had worked with u.s. troops. and who had applied for the special visas. a federal judge ruled that they broke the law by breaking the system, so that these visas would never get processed. it was hiding in plain sight that the system was broken under the trump administration. but still, it is another thing altogether to have senior officials from inside the administration say yes, that process was broken. it was broken delib

obviously you have been corroborated in your account by elizabeth newman today who was at the homeland security department and in a position to know. let me ask if i got anything wrong or if i'm misunderstanding any of this. >> no, that's exactly it. i think it has just been incredibly frustrating to me to watch some of the narratives being pushed now that if trump were in office he would have, you know, rescued all of the translators and all of these interpreters and that all would be fine. it is also awful to watch the narratives saying -- secondary narratives saying the afghan refugees and interpreters aren't welcome here. i have been thinking about this. it has been bothering me the entire week as we watched scenes in afghanistan unfold. like many others who have been there on the ground, who travelled in afghanistan and have gotten to know the afghan people and know that the lifelines that these interpreters and other u.s. allies provided to us on the ground, it is hard to watch what is happening there. i guess -- i guess my point in writing the thread was watching what is happeni

i know you have fantastic reporting i want to get to, but elizabeth newman is a lifelong republican whocism of donald trump in a very painful way. she talked about it on this show often. it really came down to her life's work as a person working around the policy of extremism. to hear her articulate that the threat is exacerbated, violence against all of us is exacerbated by the seemingly sanctioned conduct of one of the two political parties is harrowing. >> that's right. and she really had a front row seat to this in the final months of the trump administration. she gave me an on-the-record interview shortly after leaving the department of homeland security where she detailed the unsuccessful efforts, largely unsuccessful efforts she engaged in to try to get the trump white house to take this threat seriously. the way she laid it out was that trump and the folks around him didn't want to talk about it, didn't want to acknowledge that domestic terrorism was a real threat, didn't want to acknowledge that domestic extremism was growing and metastasizing on the president's watch, and that

elizabeth newman, former assistant secretary for our counterterrorism threat and prevention at the department of homeland security who currently serves as the chief strategy officer at moonshot a web based organization that uses data to mitigate the effects of harmful online content to vulnerable populations. she has years of experience in protecting our homeland, most notably her time at dhs where she oversaw department-wide implantation involving countering transnational terrorism. you are recognized for your five minute opening remarks. ms. neumann: thank you. i'm very pleased you're are holding this hearing today. i'm very thankful that you are continuing to stay engaged on this topic and appreciate your leadership and commitment to the challenge. the timing of the hearing prompts me to reflect on the state of attacks we had two years ago this week. it was gilroy, el paso, and dayton. those two days in 2019 19 served to shadow the current spike of violence that started last summer and continues this year, in particular that there is no singular ideology or grievance responsible for all th

, that this was done so poorly, and he said exactly what livia troy -- what olivia troye and elizabeth newmany were there in the trump administration, and they did not want these immigrants in. stephen miller is a very unfortunate individual who does not like the immigrants. this is why we have had this terrible, terrible slowdown of approving them. there is a process. they were defunding them, doing all kinds of things to stop these special visas. the people need to know this. also, the doctors in florida this morning came out in protest over covid. they are working double and triple shifts, doctors and nurses, and i know what it is like. i served in the vietnam era. it was a different compliance, scientific process, and we were a great team of enlisted officers, and we worked together and believed in science. and these people that are unvaccinated are taking the beds. host: we will hear from mark in florida, panama city. cases you have covid. how are you doing? -- it says you have covid. how are you doing? caller: i am doing good. i feel like hell, but we are hanging in there. i got it abou

>> i think on the spectrum, elizabeth was hiding her face. adam newmand i think was a addition, don't look here, here. mostly people looked here and he would say the members are going to be big. if you look back, you can see the i metrics in their previous productions what they hit. in ay lot of ways yes, he vied and the truth wasn't there, some people in his defense told us the probability they will say there's an asterix and whether or not i believe it but it was not outright fraud, it's just changing the truth and making think something else and masterfully manipulative or it was if you wanted to invest in the company even if the private market don't have the same roles, there's a lot and what's going to happen before so you would think about that. >> talking about smart people doing dumb things, i think that's court of the story. keep us the macro environment mixed together to have smart investors, not all but some see this as something that was clearly not. that would not have happened if you were ten years earlier, just couldn't do it, a lining of

elizabeth holmes very clearly i felt was committing fraud or lying about the results of these tests. newman did lie on air. he was a liar very clearly by definition and at the same time stated the evaluation is much more based upon our energy and spirituality than it is [inaudible] i struggle so in a lot of ways he lied in his defense they would say the profitability. it wasn't. outright fraud. it was just changing the truth and making these things something else and masterfully manipulative, whatever t it was. but the numbers if you want to invest even if they don't have the same rules as private market companies, there was a lot and they could see that they wouldn't live up to thehe hype t had before and it probably wouldn't. >> in the intro, we talk about smart people doing dumb things. pretty core that is court to the story. he puts the macro environment taught mixed together to have smart investors to see this as something that it clearly was not. and that was hisin power in a wy that wouldn't have happened if it were ten years earlier. sort of just this lining of the stars that allowe

elizabeth holmes very clearly i felt were she was lying about the results of the test. newman lie on air and several times saying it was the company in that respect he is a liar. very clearly by definition. at the same time he stated gibberish like our evaluations are much more based on her energy and spirituality then it is. so i struggled with this. if someone makes this and you still invest who is the fool? >> think that is a great question. i think on the spectrum he's hiding things. is much more like a magician. don't look here look here. people look tear and people would say the numbers are going to be this. if you look back and see the metrics if you're going to come in and invest. with their previous projections were what they hits. they never hit their projections they never did. and a lot of ways yes he lied about keeping money out, the truth wasn't there. people in his defenses told us the profitability they will say there's like an star i don't know whether or not i beli