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former government minister, and paddy ashdown's former press secretary from the lib dems, joe phillips. elizabeth thank you for coming in. how worried are you about our safety in this country now, given the escalating issues in other parts of the world? >> well, i am worried about what matters even more is that we should all be worried, because what's happening is that russia and other countries have concluded with justification that our military defence is quite good. it could be better, but it's quite good. it's not worth trying any silly games with our military, but that doesn't mean that they don't want to harm our countries. so what they're doing instead is using non—military means. we have seen them use novichok in the in the uk, we have seen them sabotage various industrial sites in other countries. the russians, we have seen china engagein russians, we have seen china engage in hostage diplomacy. we have seen cyber aggression over many years. we have seen disinformation and we try to counter each of these. but as soon as we get good at countering one of these, they do something else , whi