saul, you are an old friend. it's wild that you are doing this. because you and elizabeth warren, pete buttigieg, and george soros' kids are all on the same side. why did a good republican from michigan decide to throw in with all those characters for the betterment of the country? >> there is a little bit of a nuance here in the sense that democrats do want to eliminate the electoral college but there are a few polls out there, the democrats have been pushing to eliminate the electoral college and one i'm working with is basically a bipartisan result that wants to use the national popular vote and keep the electoral college. you've got two different proposals that a lot -- >> laura: you claim you do not want to abolish electoral college -- >> we don't claim it. we don't -->> >> your plan, states would have the right not to give their delegates to the person who wins in the state, the candidate who wins in the state. they would be obligated to vote for the candidate who won the most popular vote. in other words, if trump wins texas, under your plan, if this passes state le