, that her mother had attempted to poison david shannon, that joan shannon and elizabeth shannonnspired to kill david shannon and it actually was elizabeth that had shot him that night. >> a conspiracy? joan the brains, and elizabeth the brawn? given the tumultuous relationship between mother and daughter, who could have imagined they could agree on anything, let alone murder? but, said vera, that's the story elizabeth told her. and it implicated both her best friend and joan shannon in a homicide. >> the arrest warrants went out for both of them simultaneously. joan shannon was arrested actually before elizabeth was arrested and before elizabeth gave any statement in the case. >> david shannon's family was in fayetteville for david's funeral. right there with joan when the cops came, saw what they did. joan had been practically paralyzed with grief, they said. and then arrested. >> they put cuffs on her. i imagine they read her her rights right then. but i don't know. it was another shock. >> joan herself was unshakeable in her insistence she did not do it. she had no part, she

shannon: we have terrible news out of afghanistan. roadside bomb killed three of our u.s. service members. senator elizabethng this, three u.s. service members were killed in afghanistan today as we grieve with their families. we must ask how many more must die to realize that no amount u.s. military will fix afghanistan. it's time to bring our troops home. the president expressed lot of worry and hesitation about us being in afghanistan. >> it is true. it's very frustrating. 17 years. we squandered so many opportunities to turn this around during the bush administration and we went to war in afghanistan. all that said, the trump team i think what they have, without stating it, what they are doing, they upped the ante in terms of the number of troops there to help train the afghan security forces. what they said is, we'll stay unconditionally. that never existed during the obama administration. they're saying that, they want the taliban to recognize resolve here and they want to force the taliban to come to the table and discuss a political solution. that is really their strategy. whether that will work or

shannon: he was wildly popular as president. what about the point morgan makes that it is time for leaders in the party? we see senator sanders, elizabeth warren and others but what about the next generation? time for them to step up. >> to immediately eclipse someone like barack obama, it is noticeable, you don't see much of bill clinton or hillary clinton out there. they certainly have been. not when it comes to obama, or should oprah run? shannon: she is not. >> if you are looking in terms of senate candidates, an explosion of riches, bounty of candidates to choose from. i don't know who it might be, looks like michael avenatti late -- i am telling you. >> i really think -- >> i will say i think the key here is not necessarily obama versus trump but those are the giants of politics that this moment. it is a nationalized election in so many places but the key here in terms of the itinerary, trump going to read states to pump up his days, obama going to pump up the minority, vote especially in florida and georgia, that you have to look at the issues. healthcare dominates advertising. shannon: final word to you. >> until the 2020 electi