it was probably a picture book of elizabeth katie stanton. was coming up in a age where it was take your daughter to workday and a lot of conscious raising efforts, a lot of lip service anyway was paid to the idea, but i also felt like in a way it wasn't something you were necessarily supposed to talk about and we take for granted now equal work and equal pay and equal protection. we're all for this and thus we don't need to discuss it as much, and so where those discussions happen probably was the university level. you know, i remember the most popular class was called gender in society, and it really was, you know, shockingly transformative. it was just a vocabulary to talk about, stuff you're endeared to because it's the fabric of your life, and -- but i do think that it was, for me, you mentioned poetry, virginia wolf was somebody i took a seminar, did all of her books, and that just gave me a new way to think about the intersection of art and gender. sorry, i suppose that was my introduction, but as i mentioned, i mean, my mom too. i jus