we have joining us elizabeth teisberg a professor at the college of school of medicine and center for health care delivery science. she is also a senior institute associate at harvard's institute for strategy and competitiveness. she co-authored redefining health care creating value-based competition on results. we also have david hyman the chair in law and professor of medicine at the university of illinois where he directs the epstein program in health law and policy. david was a project leader for a joint undertaking of the federal trade commission and the u.s. department of justice and you can imagine how fun it must be simultaneously to try to work with two different government agencies that wants but he did and he turned out a report calling improving health care and competition and the author of the genre defining medicare meets mephistopheles. i assume that's a fantasy thriller in health care. thomas miller is a resident fellow where he focuses on health policy and the co-author of why obamacare is wrong for america and author of when obamacare fails the playbook for market-ba