. >> if you look at elk herds, there are very healthy elk herds. they are either at or above objectives for elk. you might have times when wolves caused the kurds to decline and take hunting opportunity way from people and we have to come to whether or not that is acceptable to us as a society to have that alan's -- that balance. >> staining, coloring, or everybody wants to be the best in the world. there are a lot here in montana. many have won world titles. hunting is a big heart of our economy out here. and it has gradually gotten bad. we are competing with too many predators now. the wolves, the mountain lines and the grizzly bears. we use to do over a hundred elk a year. now we are down to around 40. and of lot of them are coming to other parts werewolves are not. that many to go around anymore. there is a place for them, but they need to be regulated like every other animal. i just feel they haven't been. it has gotten way out of control. our wolf season started 10 years ago. >> it was my interpretation that the states were not thrilled about