and if we had anything from the prolific elledge o baker. with those many organizations that we model our work after. and if she had written a book i guess i would write the book that i wrote but organizing would have been sharper. and with the work that i was doing. but this generation of activists and community organizing i want to take the time to write down to put into historical context. and to be quite a full marble as an organizer and provide very practical things. to writing and documenting and any number of hours or on -- other organizers. can you speak to the writing process? >> and why documentation matters? >> i have never been a discipline student? listening to the teacher or professor give a lecture to take a test. i got a lot of things on long -- a's on things i never read and that is wild. i haven't been that personal my life. but when i was doing digital organizing and that has to make sense to a lot of people. in a way that relates to a lot of people? when it comes to writing a book with the op-ed or article or anything lik