. >> here she is now, ellen degeneres. [cheers and applause] >> ellen: all right. i appreciate it.ike you. thank you so much. have a seat, or not, whatever you'd like to do. it's your time. thank you very much. back at you, all of you. if this is your first time to the show, welcome to the studio. this is the performance area here and i do the interviews over there. behind the curtain is my rec room. [laughter] somebody saw "50 shades of grey" this weekend. i love real estate. people love. that i love to buy houses. i love to sell houses. when i order a drink, i'd like it to be on the house. [laughter] i always want to know what houses are out there. you have to know how to read the real estate listings. they put in things that seem positive and they're not. since i know a few things about homesable the creator of hgtv's "ellen's design challenge" mondays at 9:00. [cheers and applause] oh, thank you. i thought i would point out a few things to watch for when you are buying a house. let's look at the first one right here. 2 bedroom 2 bath condo with potential. [laughter] look out fo

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ellen was a good chief of staff.ut when i read the charges, i knew from that very moment that these had no merit. emily: how aware were you of this situation, how aware where you that she was not happy? john: you know, i'd rather not get into the past. ellen did some good things. i wish her well at reddit. emily: she is now the ceo of reddit, she is making bold moves. was she really not senior partner material? john: it is important to look at the difference between being an operator or being an investor, i think that she can be a good ceo. i hope that she is. but to be a successful investing partner is a really different job. emily: have you talked to her? john: only briefly in the trial. emily: what did you guys say? john: i said hi, ellen, how is your family? she said ok. that is it. i have not spoken with her since. emily: why didn't you try harder to settle? john: i always believed that this matter should be settled outside the courts. from the beginning. it just wasn't possible. emily: she is proceeding with an

ellen was a good chief of staff.hen i read the charges, i knew from that very moment that these had no merit. emily: how aware of you -- how aware were you of situation? >> i would rather not get into the past. ellen did some really good things, and i wish her well at reddit. emily: now she is the ceo of reddit. she is making bold moves. was she really not senior partner material? >> there is a difference between looking at an operator and an investor. i think ellen can be a really great ceo. i hope that she has. but to be a successful investment partner is a tough job. emily: have you talked to her? >> only briefly during the trial. emily: what did you say? >> hi, ellen. how are you, how is your family? how are you doing? emily: what it she said? >> okay. emily: that is it? >> that's it. i haven't spoken to her since. emily: why didn't you decided to settle? >> i believe this should of been handled outside the courts from the very beginning, it just wasn't possible. emily: she's looking for an appeal of $2.7 million

ellen zentner joins us. and sepp blatter. the sport of soccer falls into some level of brendan greeley chaos. this is "bloomberg surveillance ." it is wednesday, june 3. i am tom keene. let's get right to fifa. where you really stunned that the guy resigned? brendan: is inconceivable. nobody expected that to happen at all. all i can think is that it is nudged over the edge by the sponsor. tom: he has been likened in a collegiate way to castro stalin , and others. is that fair? brendan: yes. vonnie: he is becoming an international criminal. brendan: what is true is after the news of the u.s. investigation broke, more people were willing to say bad things about him. tom: we will touch on this on "bloomberg surveillance" this morning with a critical interview with someone who used to work with sepp blatter at fifa. here are top headlines with vonnie quinn. vonnie: european creditors will present a final proposal to alexis tsipras. the new proposal will focus on the policies greece must adopt if it wants more bailout aid needed t

ellen pao sued the firm for gender discrimination. joining me today, general partners john doerr and beth seidenberg. thank you for doing this. it is great to have you here. you have been quiet for a long time, quiet through the trial. why are you here? john: nobody likes litigation. we are human. this trial was painful. at the end of the day, six women and six men heard five weeks of testimony. they deliberated for 1.5 days. they found decisively on the facts that this company did not discriminate or retaliate and that ellen's claims had no merit. we know there was a second trial going on in public opinion and it out against the technology industry and we in the venture industry. we get that. emily: so you feel like you lost in the court of public opinion? john: i'm sorry it was so hard to go through this, but more than anything else, i am sorry for minorities in the tech industry. this is very personal. i have two daughters. getting to a 50-50 world is super important. emily: you have been at kleiner perkins for 35 years. how did yo

ellen did some good things, and i wish her well, and to read it. emily: now she's the ceo of reddit. she is making bold moves. important tot is look at the difference between being an operator and an investor. i think ellen can be a great ceo, i hope that she is, but to be a successful investing partner is a different job. emily: have you talked to her? john doerr: only briefly in the trial. i said, "hi ellen. how's your family? how are you doing?" ok.said that's it. i haven't spoken with her since. emily: why did you not try to settle? john doerr: i always thought this should have been settled outside the course. from the very beginning. emily: ellen is proceeding with an appeal and asking for $2.7 million to walk away. why not just pay her? john doerr: if it were that easy it would have been done. i will just tell you it's not possible. beth seidenberg: we have tried. emily: how hard? beth seidenberg: very hard. john doerr: the details there are really not what matters. what matters is we have tried really hard and it's not possible at this time.

ellen was a good chief of staff.hen i read the charges, i knew from that moment these had no merit. emily: how will where were you -- how aware were you of situation? when she was there, how where were you that she was unhappy? guest: i would rather not get into the past. she did some really good things and i wish her well at reddit. emily: now she is the ceo of reddit. she is making bold moves. what she really not ceo material? guest: i think she can be a great ceo. but to be a successful investment partner is a tough job. emily: have you talked to her? guest: only briefly during the trial. emily: what did you say? guest: hi, ellen. how are you, how is your family? emily: what did she say? guest: ok. emily: that is it? guest: that's it. i haven't spoken with her since. emily: why didn't you try harder to settle? guest: i believe -- emily: ellen is proceeding with an appeal. she is asking for $2.7 million to walk away. why not pay her and be done with it? guest: if it were that easy, it would have been done. i will j

sandberg said that she saw herself in ellen pao.any women have sent the same thing in the technology industry. sue decker said that many of the behaviors raised in this trial have been thing she has personally witnessed that often happens in incremental steps. they seem so small in isolation that it seems silly to complain about so we move on. in aggregate, with the perspective of hindsight, they are real. how do you respond to the idea that while this may not be discrimination according to the letter of the law, small repeated slights can have a real impact on someone. beth: there is no question, all of us women saw ourselves in this situation. we are often the minority. emily: but do you understand how a lot of these things can be small things in isolation, but altogether they are a big deal. john: yes, i understand that. we understand that. we all possess biases, hidden biases. it is important to be aware of those and mitigate them, act on them. so you can get the best out of all of your people and make decisions. emily: the iron

ellen was a good chief of staff. when i read the charges, i knew from that very moment that these had no merit. howy: how aware of you -- aware were you of the situation? john: you know, i would rather not get into the past. ellen did some really good things, and i wish her well. emily: now she is the ceo of reddit. she is making some old moves -- bold moves. john: there is a difference between being an operator and being an investor, and i think alan can be a very great -- ell en can be a very great seo. emily: -- ceo. emily: have you talked to her at all? what did she say? ellen."said, "hi i haven't spoken with her sense. -- since. emily: why didn't you try to settle? john: we just didn't believe that we could do the outside the courts -- do it outside the courts. emily: why not just pay her and be done with it? it were that easy, it would have been done. but i can tell you it was not possible. >> we have tried. emily: how hard did you try? >> very hard. john: the details there are not what matters. all we can say

mary ellen, thank you so much. i want to start with just your broad reaction to what you heard from jim boulware. >> well, considering that's his father, it makes sense that he's very, you know, upset about losing his son. so, his perspective is what i would expect. i am -- and i've seen this in cases that i've worked. the family will normalize behavior, even behavior that's very violent, and they'll rationalize their child's behavior, or they'll tell you i just never saw it coming. which is what we heard here. and -- >> i wonder, though, what is the added variable here? i mean there are people who have a mistrust of government, who have a palpable anger directed toward law enforcement, and feel desperate. but, they don't go to this extreme. is there one common variable that elevates it to which family and loved ones should then say we need to call authorities? >> i think there is. and in looking at these cases, there's a phenomenon that we've identified, it's called an injustice collector. and these are individual

unhappy read it users flock to a new website after ellen pao ban on harassment groups. and techand what to expect from the world's most important gaming convention, e 3. first to our lead. jack dorsey returns to twitter as interim ceo. is it his steve jobs moment? the ceo is stepping down after five years at the helm and pressure from wall street. dorsey was pushed out from the top position in 2008. he remained as chairman even after he left to focus on it his payment startup square. twitter shares closed higher. if not decor jacobin who -- not dick or jack, then who should return to twitter? the interview is part of a longer conversation on the aftermath of the ellen pao trial. the first interview given by the firm after the verdict. today i asked about twitter. guest: he has done a fabulous job. they are going to do over $2 billion this year in the course of those five or so years. he took the company value from $3 billion to $24 billion. it is a hard thing to be a ceo of a public company. he had been discussing this for a time. emily: for you consulted? >> and no. em

ellen pao versus kleiner perkins.hy we may have seen just the beginning of this court fight. ♪ emily: amazon quietly rolls out an allowance feature. it allows people to set up monthly or weekly payments to give their kids or anyone else over the age of 13 with the balance. the so-called e-giving market is expected to balloon to $14 billion in 2017. apple is gearing up for its annual developers conference. the new music streaming service is expected to be announced on monday. 5000 developers will descend upon downtown san francisco to learn what else apple is breaking on. joining me is -- we are looking forward to monday. apple music seems to be the biggest thing. it is a very crowded market already. so, what can we really expect? guest: what can apple do that is apple and distinct? when we think about these services, there is not a huge difference in the library of music available. how you package it, how you put it together, how you discover music. all of those things become more important. will they have djs on chan

ellen is someone you personally brought into the firm. she was your chief of staff and you are her mentor. how'd you feel when you found out she was suing you? john: i was sick. she was a good chief of staff, but when i read the charges, i knew from that very moment that these had no merit. were --ow aware of you how aware were you of the situation? john: i would rather not get into the past. she did some really good things and i wish her well at reddit. ceo ofnow she is the reddit. when she not senior partner material? important to look at the difference between being an operator and being an investor. be a great ceo. i hope that she is. but to be a successful investing partner is a different job. emily: have you talked to her at all? john: only briefly in the trial. i said hi, how is your family, how are you doing? emily: what did she say? john: ok. i have not spoken with her since stopped emily: why didn't you try harder to settle? john: i always believed this should have been settled outside the courts. it wasn't possible. for $2.7e i

betty yu on the million dollar gamble ellen powell is taking. >> reporter: her old company made her arom paying nearly $1 million on legal fees from the trial she lost on the condition she will not appeal. today she filed the paperwork to do just that. >> this is a $1 million gamble. it's a big risk to take. so the only thing one can assume from this is that there is something, some smoking gun or some major thing that they believe will absolutely convince two of the three, if not all three appellate court justices that this verdict is unfair and should be reversed. >> reporter: this legal expert believes ellen could face an uphill battle in order to convince the court the verdict should be thrown out. the jury found she was not promoted because she's a woman. data shows very few cases in the same court of appeals have been reversed. no matter the outcome news of the appeal is keeping talk of sexism in silicon valley alive. >> i think that's fantastic. she's sticking up for women's rights and not just in silicon valley, but i'm sure across the country she's doing that for us. it's not

a judge has issued a tentative ruling for ellen pow to cover opponent's legal fees and lost the high profile discrimination case to a firm and talking about gender bias in silicon valley and received $275,000 and a hearing is scheduled today to finalize the matter. for the first time in a century a u.s. bill will have a face of a woman on it. a new $10 bill will be released in 2020 and treasury secretary says it will replace the

they're always lying. >> mary ellen, any insight on how to catch him? >> at this point people are saying he is he is exhausted, he is worn out, he is fearful. but that is not consistent with psychopathy. they're remarkably resillientresilient, optimistic individuals though being chased by hundred of law enforcement, the other thing they have a very low threshold for fear. so what would cause you and chris and i to be extremely fearful, he is not at all afraid. and the most dangerous part of it is he will engage in this gratuitous violence if he comes across someone not because -- they keep him from getting the car that he wants to carjack, because he is someone who engages in violence because he enjoys it. >> mary ellen o'toole, chris mahandi, thank you. terrifying. ahead, we'll dig deeper what chris touched on. joyce mitchell's relationship with the two killers on the run. why would she even want to help them? what her family members are saying. that's next. here's to the explorers. those diagnosed with cancer who explored their treatment options by ge

now ellen pao has filed the notice of appeal and has 40 days to explain why she believes her trial is flawed. i'm mark sayre, kpix5. >> and so far, ellen pao has not commented on the statement from her former employer. >>> a stranger snatched a mother's child from a library in milpitas. the boy was found safe about an hour later in fremont. christian hartnett on the bus driver who became a hero. >> reporter: chopper 5 video shows the final moments of a tense one-hour search. a hooded suspect is in custody, but police say it was a close call. >> this could have had a very, very different ending. >> reporter: so let's go to the beginning. the milpitas library was bustling with police activity at 10:30 a.m. after a call came in that a boy was missing. a man in a hoody was seen with the child. >> when i saw the mother, the mother was in the lobby. and she was standing with her husband. and both of them looked really upset. >> reporter: according to milpitas police, a breakthrough came when a valley transportation authority bus driver gave them a call. he said he believed the suspect and t

ellen haus suit the firm for gender discrimination.ng me today, general partners john doerr and beth se

emily: do you feel you have made mistakes in regard to ellen powell. ?ohn: she was a very good chief of, but not a very good investor. emily: you don't think she should have been made an investor? john: we gave her a shot. emily: do you think you made mistakes when it came to listening to her complaint? john: no. emily: best you feel that there were mistakes and how the firm was run? beth: no, we are really looking forward. emily: are you doing anything differently now? sure, because of what has happened. we are doubling down on diversity and taking the firm through training. it myselfn through and we will take it to the portfolio companies where we serve on the board. we are publishing a report, see you can judge us by our results. beth: the third thing we are improving the pipeline. we have a fellows program that brings in students from universities around the country and we are focused on diversity there. emily: do you worry about how this affects your reputation and image? john: the results of the partnership are some of the best we have seen. emily,

give us your overall assessment, ellen.have four democrats as we mentioned, 10 republicans in the field. how are the media doing? >> the media decided who they want to run and who they want to cover and that's what they're covering. in my view they're giving these nice a huge pass and not asking questions. everybody knows i'm a democrat but hillary clinton has not given, except for one press briefing. my advice if i were her people start talking to the press. jon: if you're not named hillary clinton it is pretty hard to get coverage on the democratic side isn't it, judy. >> virtually impossible. i agree with ellen the press decided already inned a vans of a referendum on any part of the american people who is serious candidate and who is not. if you're rick perry, for example, you're a very serious candidate who is the was longest serving governor of texas a major state executive experience, one of only two candidates with military experience he got less than 15 minutes, 15 seconds of airtime. this is ridiculous. we are not

john: i'm sorry that this happened to ellen and to us.his is a civil case, the question is liability. the jury found that we are not liable after 5.5 weeks of testimony. emily, i'm sad that anyone has a bad experience at our firm. but we are moving forward and we know there is more we can do. emily: what is it like being a female partner and being a female venture capitalist? beth: this has been the best work environment of my career. that is because i'm surrounded by great women and great partners. emily: other women have left kleiner, does this alarm you? john: over the history of the firm, more the and 30 junior partners have come to work for us and then moved on. emily: do you worry that this could be a difficult place for diverse candidates to succeed? john: i'm always interested for this firm to be the best place for people to work here -- to work. emily: how do you talk to your daughters about this? john: i talked to them about it and they are very smart. emily: why not have hr? john: we have policies. beth: we have a consultant th

mary ellen, do you know why these policies were instituted? >> i wouldn't know specific to this institution where these policies came from. but i can say that when you analyze joyce's behavior you say, is this a one or a two-time infraction of the rules or was this ongoing behavior so that here's a person who could lower the suspicions of the officers there or other people because she had done it in the past and had done it repeatedly and just doesn't seem to be the kind of person at least in their eyes, who would be coordinating this on behalf of a very violent offender. and so she was very manipulative. and as she gained more and more power within the institution and within those lax laws and policies she probably was actually making decisions on her own how to get around the system and not necessarily even at the request of either richard matt or david sweat. >> and i guess i would suppose maybe it's easy to manipulate a fellow employee to do something to skirt the rules, right, because it happens in many businesses across the country? >> y

the next chapter in ellen pao versus kleiner perkins.he lost a high profile gender bias lawsuit earlier this year. this is three times the month that offer -- that they offered to settle the case. she also wants them to repay $1 million in court costs. basically she is asking for 3.7 billion dollars. in return, she will drop the appeal. they had already offered to waive the court fees. they said, she is obligated as a matter of law to repay a portion of our legal cost and we have no exception -- expectation of meeting this demand. they might not hear her appeal. if granted, it could go on years after that. even though she lost the trial, she sparks intense debate about the role of women in silicon valley. up next, wearables to the people that need them most. that was a challenge that unicef taking text to the poorest part of the world. google gets called out for sitting on a mountain of cash. could a dividend be in the future? ♪ emily: it is time for the daily byte, one number that tells a whole lot. today, it is one and a half billion d

mary ellen owe teal, fbi agent for 20 years. ties to have you back on the program, mary ellen.oint in the investigation is someone with your skills on this case and where do you even start? >> yes. we would be. and what we would be doing is working for the prosecutor attempting to do really a 360-degree assessment on this shooter. we would want to find out, for example, how long this planning had gone on. we would want to find out about this weapon or any other weapons. we would want to find out about his writings, his postings. we would take him back to the time he was practically a newborn so we understood what made this person tick. jenna: that not to explain or justify the acts for any reason but for a specific purpose. what is that purpose? >> it is for several purposes. we want to find out the full extent of his problems. maybe there are other crimes involved that we're simply not aware of. not certainly on this level but we would still want to find out who he was interacting with, who he associated with. maybe those were people that were listen to what he said but the le

a lone one at that but a terrorist act. >> mary ellen? >> this was a terrorist act, it was terrifying listening to the narrative was chilling and it was absolutely stunning. but that said when you -- when i listen to the motivation that this individual has in terms of the suspension and the friction between him and this victim it does seem that his -- this was not instrumental violence. this was reaction airy to his relationship with her, and -- >> let me ask you this. it does seem reaction airy given the timing of when the incident happened. does that make it not terror? >> i think it's terrifying but at the same time i think when this case goes into court, the foundation upon which they had to make that decision is is it going to fit the statute of terrorism, or is it going to fit the statute of workplace violence? >> i want to show the audience the domestic terrorism statute so they can see forthemselves. it involves acts dangerous to human life that violates state law. check. that appear to intimidate or coerce a civilian population.

first to our lead -- ellen pao versus kleiner perkins.

ellen page at 26.xamples and if we look tv i think was ahead of the movies on tv shows like "modern family". >> even "all in the family" dealt with that. >> three's company joked about it. tv has been more daring than movies and the reason is because the movies need a box office and still regions particularly in asia and russia where the audiences aren't as accepting of gay people. >> you talk about movies that did powerful impact on the subject and that's got to be "brokeback mountain", philadelphia", well made films heralded for the quality of the films and very sensitive issues. >> we talked to directors and writers on this issue. it's the tenth anniversary of brokeback mountain. he talked about how he was worried people wouldn't see the movie in shopping malls in all of america and it went on to make close to $180 million. but that was a ground breaking movement and april a lot of people went to see the movie and they were interested in watching a gay romance on the screen. >> could you categorize

that's for mary ellen. >> it's absolutely horrifying.assessment of this. you can have a radicalized terrorist who for example goes home and kills his spouse or comes to work and acts out violently. the fact that he has that in his background does not make every act of violence an act of terrorism.a but i completely get the idea that this was really behaviorally an act of terror. and my position is that being able to present a strong motivation in court with all these other things brought in would be the best of really both worlds so that the jury can understand really what made this guy tick. >> so many people would like to t see the charleston murders charges as an act of terror. and i completely understand that. and there is a real question, though, whether that same pp standard should apply here where this man clearly terrorized his victims. and some would argue meets the legal definition as well. thank you both for your expertise. when we come back, a special message from tracy johnson. i know i have a 798 fico score. [score alert te

california, for more on how drones are looking out for sharks. >>> and the queen of the summer novel ellen hilderbrand is in the studio. thanks for watching. i'm anne-marie green. have a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> the sight of a lot of celebrating last night at oracle arena. >> i bet there are still people into there. >> watching the game last night was hilarious because inside oracle you would have thought the game was played there. >> they had 18,000 in there. >> they were going insane. >> good morning, it is wednesday june 17. i'm michelle griego. >> hi, everyone. i'm frank mallicoat. if you didn't catch the newspaper front page, champions at last. >> wahoo! >> who stayed up past 11:00? i know you did. >> 10:45-ish. >> it was a team evident where we all stayed up cheering the warriors on. it was a great team effort last night on the court as it has been all season long not just one great standout but the whole time and a very young team at that so they can stay up late. we're struggling this morning. >> i bet they are still up in cleveland, by the way. >> we ha

another loss for ellen pao. must now pay her former employer to earn zynga $5,000 in legal fees. -- $275,000 in legal fees. >> i'm sorry this happened to ellen, that it happened to us. this is not a question of guilt. it's a civil case. the jury found we are not liable after 5.5 weeks of testimony. olivia: you can see the entire interview tonight at 7:00 right here on studio 1.0 -- 7:30. matt: prosecutors and attorneys for dennis hastert will be back in court today. they will try to determine how the hush money case against him will proceed. he is charged with violating making rules and lying to the fbi. he had planned to pay 3 million -- $3.5 million so the allegations of sexual misconduct years ago would not come out. the $10 bill will be getting a bit of a facelift. it will feature the first woman on a the nation's currency -- hamilton is not completely out. he may still end up appearing on some of the $10 bills. i feel at the susan b anthony dollar was more recent than a century a go maybe the first woman on

a lone one at that but a terrorist act. >> mary ellen?fying listening to the narrative was chilling and it was absolutely stunning. but that said when you -- when i listen to the motivation that this individual has in terms of the suspension and the friction between him and this victim it does seem that his -- this was not instrumental violence. this was reaction airy to his relationship with her, and -- >> let me ask you this. it does seem reaction airy given the timing of when the incident happened. does that make it not terror? >> i think it's terrifying but at the same time i think when this case goes into court, the foundation upon which they had to make that decision is is it going to fit tf terrorism, or is it going to fit the statute of workplace violence? >> i want to show the audience the domestic terrorism statute so they can see for themselves. it involves acts dangerous to human life that violates state law. check. that appear to intimidate or coerce a civilian population. and that occurred primarily within the united states.

. >> mary ellen is quick to comment on this as well but i see here a person who is a coward. somebody who did not have control, was trying regain control by a group that he thought company control. and he was so cowardly he could not bring himself to take his own life. >> mary ellen the fact that he sat there in this group as i said in the introduction of trust, of faith, reading the bible for an hour and then killed them all, save for a few, what does that tell us? >> that's very important behavior. and the prosecutor will need to be aware of what that behavior indicates. there was a detachment between him and those victims. during that hour he probably knew their names. some of them embraced him. they were friendly to him. they welcomed him into the group. and yet at the end of that hour he began shooting them. this is someone that had no empathy. he didn't connect with these people as other humans. saw them more as objects. and something has to explain that kind of behavior. in addition to the fact that he was apparently cool calm and collective and i'm sure they were scre

. >>> let's bring in former fbi profiler and msnbc contributor clint van zandt and mary ellen o'tooleescapee richard matt, just seven months before he tortured, killed, and dismembered his boss, the crime that put him in prison. in the video, he's called ricky and it shows him posing with a blow dart gun. here's some of that video. >> this is my friend ricky matt here, he's a freaking crazy lunatic maniac. >> is this the face of a maniac? >> this is the south american blow gun. >> and we're going to demonstrate. >> we're going to demonstrate how powerful this gun is today. >> we're going to dip these in blood and we'll put a patent on them and sell them as deadly weapons. >> so clint, when you see that video, one of the guys who is on the loose, probably in the woods, when you see that, what are you looking at there? >> well, this is part of his persona, i think, number one. i think this guy is a functional sociopath, psychopath and a social personality. but he's a cunning individual, and he likes to present himself in a way. this is manly. the rest of the video shows this other indiv

ellen green, who did the original audrey. that's really exciting. >> it is. yeah. >> seth: you were into musicals. >> i was all about 'em. >> seth: still into musicals. >> love them. >> seth: you did some of the big ones back in your school days. >> sure. sure, sure. >> seth: you did "evita," right? >> i did "evita." i was che. obviously. >> seth: real good. >> che guevara. and introducing taran killam as revolutionary -- >> seth: did you -- >> che guevara. >> seth: so i grew up in new hampshire and we had some ethnicity problems with casting in our shows. >> great. >> seth: as evidence by the fact that my brother, who is actually even a little bit whiter than me, played leroy in "fame." [ laughter ] >> great. fantastic. >> seth: and speaking of musicals and your brother, he wrote a musical episode of "the awesomes." >> seth: yes. >> for season three that's coming up. >> seth: so you got to do some singing there. >> i love it, yeah. any opportunity. >> seth: is this high school where you were doing the most musicals? >> it st

valleyf women in silicon have said they saw themselves in ellen pao. pay $2.7ing liner to million on top of asking kleiner to drop the $1 million they say she should pay them for court costs. she is asking them to pay her $3.7 million if you look at how it adds up. she did file for an appeal if you'd days ago. -- if you days ago. she has 40 days to file the brief. a judge will not look at the appeal and to potentially next year and if it is granted it could go on for years. it has been going on for three years. kleiner perkins did try to settle. she does not want to settle and now we know there is a number on it in terms of how much money she is asking for from kleiner perkins. thinking, does she think she has a chance of winning an appeal if she is putting a price tag on it? sayy: there are people who she truly believes she was discriminated against and she wants to make a point. we do not know what her true have somes are but we numbers to back things up. scarlet: still ahead, setting win the triple crown. no one has done it since 1978. we will break

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