i spoke to her a short while ago. >> suarez: ellen barry, welcome to the program. well, we got to see edward snowden for the first time in some time, publicly, on camera. now that that day is ending in moscow are we any clearer about what his situation is? >> i think so. i mean for one thing we know he's in moscow. no one had seen him for the three weeks since he arrived here from hong kong. the main thing that he made clear today is that he is running out of options. and that russia is the default position, and he views it as his safest and maybe only only option right now. >> suarez: but he said he hopes tow eventually end up in latin america. was there any discussion of how that might happen? >> you know, there was no specific discussion that i'm aware of. he did talk a great deal about the attempts of the, you know, by the u.s. or european countries to prevent him from making his way to latin american countries. he expressed gratitude towards those countries who had offered him asylum. he said that they were four, and among them is russia. but it seemed clear f