i want to ask ellen haring about this. does the way we practice war, has it changed to who the warriors can be? that is, this idea of front lines and combat do they still exist in the same way when this was first considered to be a wise way to decide who does what job? >> well, i think that's one of the reasons that the combat exclusion policy is being lifted today so designated some areas as safe and other areas as unsafe is not the reality of what we've seen in the past ten years. so women have found themselves living, fighting, and dying with their male counterparts. so i think we're adjusting to meet the realities that we see today. >> ifill: wayne zirkle, a member of congress, tammy duckworth, who lost two legs in combat, she said "you look at my legs, i didn't lose them going door to door." so she was trying to make the point that we've already passed that point. in fact, that's another point general dempsey made today, that the idea of women in combat is a real that's been settled. is that something you disagree wit