. >> we're going to talk to ellen kullman. and we'll be able to get a better idea on what's going on. fourth kwarer, one of the numbers i'm seeing, a 12 cents and then adjusted number of 11 cents. and that is versus an expectation of 7 cents. so either one of those on numbers would be above expectations. the sales number for the fourth quarter was 7.3 billion. and the estimate was 7.26 of. so that is doing okay so far. it always helps to get a look at the bid and the ask as those numbers are coming out. at this point, too wide to tell what's happening. the full year, they're giving full year numbers. full year 2012 earnings of 333, which was x items. and then i think we're going to see some forecast at this point. 2013 outlook for operating earnings is 385 out of $4.05 a share. and the estimate was for $3.84. so that looks like they are at least -- compared to where the street is, that's above expectations. >> i can tell you about some of the comments from ellen kullman, the chair woman and ceo says at this point they had a re

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