to my left is ellen nakashima. she is at "the washington post." she is a national security reporter as well, with special expertise in privacy matters, or certainly a special attention and interest in that area. marc ambinder is sitting next to ellen. he is political editor of "the atlantic." i would say that almost everybody at this table is an online journalist as well as a print or broadcast journalist. marc is one of the pioneers of on-line political blocking. next is ari shapiro of npr. ari does national security reporting, but he also has a broader portfolio, governing legal affairs all over the country and various kinds of legal controversies, including some of the jurisdictional questions that turned out to be particularly thorny in terrorism cases and who can try whom and where. at the end of the table, not least by any means, is judge robert sack of the second court of appeals in new york. judge sack was a distinguished media law practitioners for his entire pre-bench career, very highly respected. he has been on the court of appeals for