fraud, and they would also need a proof of the amount of the value of those perks are given to ellen of eisenberg and from the trump organization. and to some of those family members and employees and people are wondering if donald trump is he has indeed hefland trump. is there likely to be any fall? well from this for the former us president himself? well, i mean that's how the whole case is set up from a pre a prosecutor is it's not really about the tech fraud them at this point that there are in the center of those charges. what prosecutors will try to do is build up pressure on allen vices, burke, and he has been an executive for the trump, the organization for a decade. so if prosecutors can build pressure on him so that he might help actually prosecutors to go after donald trump. that's actually the goal. the trial won't start probably before next year. so there will be a time for ellen of eiffel and his lawyer. so a to consider if they're going to help prosecutors or if you're going to remain on the site of donald trump. but clearly this is all getting some witness to help prosecutors agai