ellen paige will pay some taxes in the kinds of roles she gets offered, i bet. they have some kind of privilege, they're top-ranked college football players or they're already hollywood stars, but all the rest of us who have to manage life without that kind of prominence and without the platform that allows us to kind of be who we are and be that in public, all the rest of us are still struggling. so the more -- that's why i think every time someone comes out in a really public way, it does matter, it is important. and it's not something that we should just dismiss as unimportant, because now we're all so post-homophobic. >> i want to thank you so much, rinku sen, as well as dory clark. >>> and up next, a classic case of bullying in the nfl. we're going to give you details of a fascinating report. and as we go, let's hear ellen paige's coming out story. >> and i am hear today, because i am gay. and because -- [ cheers and applause ] and because, maybe i can make a difference, to help others have an easier and more hopeful time, regardless, for me, i feel a perso