ellen weiss said there so many conservatives over there. i said, there's so many liberals over here. we added it over here to hide in debates. there's not very different. i did not understand her on this issue at all. >> here is what you write in the first chapter. they see conflicts everywhere. what is wrong that lives white people believe they need compromise. -- >> people believed a compromise. you cannot sit here to principles in say that i am standing here on my principal and i will not compromise. >> know where did they show a genuine interest in bringing americans together. where is a written that anyone ought to bring people together to achieve a positive result that's quite it is not written. if you're bring on is, you should present -- if you are being honest, you should present both sides. >> y? >> you want to be fully informed. >> has always been that way? >> no. >> he was clear at some point in condemning it. i do not think it was ever the case that the fear watching him at the time that you would have been unaware of what his

ellen weiss used it to satisfy a longstanding. feeling that i should not be working at npr because i was working at fox. >> is nina at npr a provocateur? >> at times, yes. she said jesse helms that because of his opposition to some aids research that she thought there might be some justice in his death. >> she has been there just as correspondent for years. i want to run that clip. >> i think you have to be worried about what is going on in the good lord's mind. if there is retreated justice, you think aids from a transfusion or one of your grandchildren will get it. >> that has been brought. why is that not provocative? ellen weiss was not the boss them. why are they not controversy and you are? >> that is a hard one. there is no question that she's making an offensive statements. it has been allowed to stand. i think there are people at npr q. are allowed full latitude in terms of making these statements with no consequence to them and their careers. >> why do you think they make exceptions? >> people are a part of that history.

at one point ellen weiss said there so many conservatives over there. i said, there are so many liberals over here. we added it over here to hide in debates. we get it take over here at npr to heighten the debate. there's not very different. i did not understand her on this issue at all. >> here is what you write in the first chapter. what is wrong with that? >> people believed a compromise. the definition of politics is the art of compromise. you cannot sit here to principles in say that i am standing here on my principal and i will not compromise. that is not politics. that might be campaigning. >> nowhere did they show a genuine interest in bringing americans together. where is a written that anyone ought to bring people together to achieve a positive result? >> that's quite it is not written. if you are being honest, you should present both sides. so people understand the different points of view. >> why? >> you want to be fully informed. >> has always been that way? >> no. >> did edward murrow always present every side? what joe mccarthy balance? >