and he asked the attorney -- ordered the attorney general of the united states, elliot richardson, to do it, and he wouldn't. the next person in line was ruckelshaus and he wouldn't do it. elliot died by the time i was on the job but ruckelhaus was alive and judge bork was involved in the story. it's a remarkable story because for many of those who participated or witnessed this event, this was the closest the country had come to a major constitutional crisis because here the president of the united states was firing the official who was looking into his misdeeds, archbold cox. and the question was in a democracy, in a republican where you have a responsible government, can the president fire somebody who is about to prosecute him for wrongdoing? >> here is a tape, or a recording of jill wine-banks. who is she? by the way, william ruckelshaus lives in washington and is 80 years old and jill is 67. >> i don't know how old she is but is a great interview and is an example where the backdrop changes and really helps. she is part of archbold cox's team. she is a prosecutor. she is one of

elliot richardson the answer is donal rumsfeld.he erved until he left ot become the secretary of defense. >> we were in the '60s yesterday. we will be flirting with zero by friday morning. it is a long process. in our area and has been ringing off and on. we're getting close to the mix of precipitation. some violent thunderstorms coming up the warm sector of the storm. at least one fatality in georgia as a result of thunderstorms. and the chicago area there is our skyline. griffith indiana is still in the '40's. 31 tat mchenry. patches of light snow will be moving in. the rain will linger. it will not get there until later in the afternoon. just flurries expected for tonight. the big storm left out. the canadian high pressure of four to gordon comes in. plus a little weather system coming out of montana. that is the next chance of light snow. clouding over friday and may be flurries in the afternoon. the patch of light snow at night. severe weather up and down the east coast. 15 is all we will see tomorrow. 14 on friday. 27 saturda

elliot richardson had died by the time i was in the job, but ruckelshaus was alive and judge bork was involved in the story. for many of those who participated or witnessed the event, this was the closest the country had come to a major constitutional crisis. the president of the united states was firing the official who was looking into his misdeeds. >> archibald cox. >> the question was, in a democracy, a republic where you have a responsible government, can the president fire somebody who is about to prosecute him for wrongdoing? >> here is a recording of one jill wine-banks -- who was she? >> a magnificent, a great interview -- this is the example of where the backdrop changes and it really helps. she was part of archibald cox's team. she was one of the few female prosecutors. this is an era when there is a glass ceiling, unfortunately -- she was ultimately the one who opposes rose mary woods on the whole issue. she is the one who asked for questions in court. here she is talking, i believe, about the saturday night massacre when she learns that archibald cox has been fired. her r