cnn legal analyst and former deputy assistant attorney general elliot williams. do you think minority leader mc mccarthy crossed some sort of legal line and broke the law? >> it was a shameful statement made by a leader of grz. the question is could or should you charge him with a crime for it, and i just think the answer to that, anderson, is probably no. look, the law is pretty clear who has obstructed the violated obstruction of justice statute but a few things give him something to hide behind. number one, he's a member of congress shielded by what's called the speech or debate clause of the constitution. and most of the things that come out of members of congress' mouths are going to be protected. look if he goes into court that's the first thing he says to the judge, then he has a decent chance of getting charges thrown out on that basis. it's just one statement, it's an ugly statement, but i just don't you can charge him on this alone or should charge him on this alone. >> and even on political reasons it ends up -- it's like a gunfight where everyone's po

with me is elliot williams. the republican governors say unconstitutional.lly bring it on. have at it. who has the better legal argument? >> the president has the better legal argument. split this up into two different things. one, the announcement of seeking to have federal workers vaccinated. think of the president as the ceo of a 2 million person corporation and he can set their workplace standards. get them out -- that's a slam dunk. less of a slam dunk but maybe a three-pointer with no one covering is the question of requiring businesses. osha can regulate just about anything. construction worker on a ladder is regulated by the government. it's the same legal sphere that would cover that. it's hard to attack that if it's about making people safer in the workplace. the argument that the president will make is that covid is a workplace hazard, and protecting people against it is -- >> a lot of people go to court knowing they're probably going to lose. >> yes. >> they try things to stall and delay. can you delay this, get in the way? >> you always can. the