and then finally, i have to point out that elliott abrams said he preferred the american model to the french model. although steve hadley said that he thinks some of the american people are becoming french. i was a little disturbed to hear that. with that, let me turn now to this extraordinary panel of experts and introduce them to you. first, let me tell you what we've asked them to reflect on and you'll find a remarkable similarity to the other themes of this conversation. this isn't every r everything we asked them to do. this is give you a feel for the kinds of things we asked them to give some thought to. where a free and fair democratic system would make resume for all religious actors is best for egypt and the other arab spring countries in the long run? second, whether a regime of robust religious freedom which we practice is an essential component of religious democracy, whether robust religious freedom is likely to moderate the liberal radicalism of some of the religious actors or is it to the contrary more likely to unleash the liberal radicalism? and then finally, here we

street journal", rula jab ril is an israeli-arab journalist who has worked as an anchor woman, and elliott abramswas national security advisor in george w. bush's administration. so elliott, tell us what you think netanyahu took back from his visit to washington? what do you think -- how did he read the mood and what did he tell his cabinet when he went back? >> i think he would have read the desire on the part of the president that he not bomb iran, but i don't think things changed much during the visit. he knew that it was the president's view. certainly in the public discourse, the president did not offer him much more than he had previously done in terms of what the united states would do about iran. a slight toughening of the american rhetoric, but not enough, i would think, to change the fundamental israeli view that they're probably going to need to take care of themselves. >> you don't think that by saying containment is nott our policy, that was a big shift. that was a kind of unequivocal explanation that, you know, we are going to try to prevent this from happening. >> i thought that wa

the arab spring and the participants in this panel include former bush administration officials elliott abrams, a former deputy national security adviser, stephen hadley and former middle east peace negotiator dennis ross. live coverage resuming here on c-span3.

moreover, and this is something that dennis ross and stephen hadley and elliott abrams and i'm surprised that i agree with so much of some of what they said because my politics is a little different than theirs. moreover, you would think that in elections and in participation of elections that the voting public or electorate would make future decisions based on performance, based on whether these groups have delivered jobs, whether they have established better educational systems, health care that wasn't deteriorating, whether they generated economic progress as opposed to simply the idea that somehow the sharia is the answer. the other thing related is not directly implied. i want to highlight it a little bit is that there does seem to be an assumption and i have a little bit of difficulty with this that the type of government in a place like egypt or tune eesh tunisia or elsewhere should look like the government that we have here in the united states. we suspect it to look quite different. the key thing, however, is whether these political systems, constitutions, institutions are robus

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moreover, and this is something that dennis ross and stephen hadley and elliott abrams, and i'm surprisedthat i agree with so much of what, some of what they said, because my policy is little different than theirs. moreover, we would think that any elections and a participation in elections that the voting public or electric would make future decisions based on performance, based on whether these groups have delivered jobs, whether they have established better educational systems, health care that wasn't deteriorating, whether they have generated economic process as opposed to simply idea that she is the solution. the other thing that is related to that question, i think, is it's not directly implied but i do want to just highlight it a little bit. is that it does seem to be an assumption, and i have a little bit of difficulty with this, that the type of government and places like egypt or tunisia or elsewhere should somehow look very much like the government that we have here in the united states. and i think that's a false assumption. i think that we should expect forms of politics and

moreover -- and this is something that dennis rauf and stephen hadley and elliott abrams -- i am surprised that i agree with so much or of some of what they said because my policy is a little bit different than theirs. moreover, you would think that, in elections and participation in elections, that the voting public or electorate would make future decisions based on performance, based on whether these groups have delivered jobs, whether they have established better educational systems, health care that was not deteriorating, whether they generated economic progress as opposed to simply the idea that sharia is the answer for that islam is the answer. the the thing that is related to that question, i think, is not directly employed, but i want to .ighlight it a little bit th it does seem that there's an assumption that the type of government that is in egypt or tunisia or else will should very much look like the government that we have here in the united states. and i think that is a false assumption. i think we should expect forms of politics and political discourse to look quite different