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joining me now is cnn legal analyst elliott williams. elliott, you know, it's been on ar -- an ordeal to say the least but the jury is methodical in the prosecution's case. i want to march through the charges with you if we can. i think one of the questions people have, the distinction between malice murder and felony murder, both have been charged. what's the distinction for people to understand? >> right. for neither of them do you have to prove the person intended to kill. look, malice murder the language is that they killed with an an b abandoned or ma malignant heart. felony murder and jurors may be confused about this, when in the commission of a felony a death occurs and what they did here was charge four separate felonies and we can walk through what they were. the individual can be convicted of felony murder. now, those four underlying felonies were aggravated assault with the use of a shotgun, aggravated assault with the use of a truck essentially treating the truck as a weapon, false imprisonment and attempted false imprisonmen
joining me now is cnn legal analyst elliott williams. elliott, you know, it's been on ar -- an ordeal to say the least but the jury is methodical in the prosecution's case. i want to march through the charges with you if we can. i think one of the questions people have, the distinction between malice murder and felony murder, both have been charged. what's the distinction for people to understand? >> right. for neither of them do you have to prove the person intended to kill. look, malice...
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what laura said. >> yeah. >> how are you going to play elliott williams. a sharp, sharp attorney. not echo me. he added it. >> lyrics and music. >> thank you guys. >> no. don't get me in trouble here. don, you stir pots. you just stir pots. >> all right guys, see you later. >> no. >> the democratic party split and not able to get on the same page. what do they have to do to right the ship? i will speak with two former senators that would know. they are next. hopefully it won't go off of the rails like the last one did. we will be right back. clerk: hello, how can i? sore throat pain? ♪honey lemon♪ try vicks vapocool drops. in honey lemon chill. for fast-acting sore throat relief. wooo vaporize sore throat pain with vicks vapocool drops. [♪] powerful skincare ingredients come dermatologist-recommended, and there's a brand that offers them at an affordable price. try olay skincare. olay regenerist, with 99% pure niacinamide provides 5 times the hydrating power of a prestige cream; while olay collagen peptide visibly firms and reduces the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles; and ol
what laura said. >> yeah. >> how are you going to play elliott williams. a sharp, sharp attorney. not echo me. he added it. >> lyrics and music. >> thank you guys. >> no. don't get me in trouble here. don, you stir pots. you just stir pots. >> all right guys, see you later. >> no. >> the democratic party split and not able to get on the same page. what do they have to do to right the ship? i will speak with two former senators that would know....
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so joining me now, cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elliott williams. t, good evening. good to see you. we're back to the qanon shaman here. chansley became a symbol of this insurrection, roaming around the senate chamber, yelling, carrying an improvised weapon. he even left a note for mike pence. >> yep. >> what do you think of the sentence, sir? >> yeah, you know, it's interesting, don. it could have been higher. so look, the way federal sentencing works is that you punch numbers in based on the severity of the offense, the crime he's charged with, his criminal history, any factors that might bump it up, were kids present or something like that. you get a range. the range here was 41 to 51 months. a judge knows that if he or she se sentences someone to within that range it's going to be good, it's going to stand up on appeal. look, he could have gone up to 51 months. what the judge seemed to be convinced by was that he accepted responsibility and spent a half hour today in this stem-winder of a speech, the defendant did, saying how sorry he was, that h
so joining me now, cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elliott williams. t, good evening. good to see you. we're back to the qanon shaman here. chansley became a symbol of this insurrection, roaming around the senate chamber, yelling, carrying an improvised weapon. he even left a note for mike pence. >> yep. >> what do you think of the sentence, sir? >> yeah, you know, it's interesting, don. it could have been higher. so look, the way federal sentencing works is...
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joining me now is cnn legal analyst elliott williams. elliott, you know, it's been an ordeal to say the least but the jury is methodical in the prosecution's case. i want to march through the charges with you if we can. i think one of the questions people have, the distinction between malice murder and felony murder, both have been charged. what's the distinction for people to understand? >> right. for neither of them do you have to prove the person intended to kill. look, malice murder the language is that they killed with an an abandoned or ma malignant heart. felony murder and jurors may be confused about this, when in the commission of a felony a death occurs and what they did here was charge four separate felonies and we can walk through what they were. the individual can be convicted of felony murder. now, those four underlying felonies were aggravated assault with the use of a shotgun, aggravated assault with the use of a truck essentially treating the truck as a weapon, false imprisonment and attempted false imprisonment. it fits
joining me now is cnn legal analyst elliott williams. elliott, you know, it's been an ordeal to say the least but the jury is methodical in the prosecution's case. i want to march through the charges with you if we can. i think one of the questions people have, the distinction between malice murder and felony murder, both have been charged. what's the distinction for people to understand? >> right. for neither of them do you have to prove the person intended to kill. look, malice murder...
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we're also joined by legal analyst elliott williams. derek and elliott, thanks for being with us. what's your reaction to this verdict today? >> it's important because we know from our african-american experience if you allow white supremacists the domestic terrorism to continue out accountability, you can be assured to have more terror in communities across the country. so finally we're seeing verdicts like this, although it's a civil trial. in a civil trial, the burden of proof is lower, but more importantly, they'll be held accountable. i think that's most important in this moment. >> what do you make of this verdict and what does it say that the jury deadlocked on two of these most serious federal charges in the case. >> let's start with that question. they deadlocked on the two federal charges but it bears mentioning that on the other charges which were the virginia state law charges, the law is incredibly clear on this under virginia law. just a quick word on how the law works and federal court state law will govern depending on where the court is. so let's not focus on thos
we're also joined by legal analyst elliott williams. derek and elliott, thanks for being with us. what's your reaction to this verdict today? >> it's important because we know from our african-american experience if you allow white supremacists the domestic terrorism to continue out accountability, you can be assured to have more terror in communities across the country. so finally we're seeing verdicts like this, although it's a civil trial. in a civil trial, the burden of proof is...
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joining us to discuss, elliott williams, former federal prosecutor, former deputy attorney general.. >> will this be the final word today? >> this is not going to be the final word, jim. look at the end of the day, the president or whom ever can appeal this to the full court of appeals or the supreme court. this is not the final word. this is a very, very important word and very, very influential court, but not the last word today. >> the next question that a lot of people have is this will not be the final word, do we have any sense of the timeline, the ultimate timeline? >> no, i don't think we do. the fact we're here today on november 30th is lightning fast in the arc of how federal appeals courts rule. they c they expedited this. whether it is days or weeks, i just -- i will say having worked on appeals court before and, look, in a trial court before, often judges will have the scale of an opinion written if they want to get it out there and then after argument will try to get the whole thing out. >> so, elliott, in our experience, as president, as former president, as interim p
joining us to discuss, elliott williams, former federal prosecutor, former deputy attorney general.. >> will this be the final word today? >> this is not going to be the final word, jim. look at the end of the day, the president or whom ever can appeal this to the full court of appeals or the supreme court. this is not the final word. this is a very, very important word and very, very influential court, but not the last word today. >> the next question that a lot of people...
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elliott williams, i'll going to you first as an attorney.minals and bad actors lie, and alex jones is just a renowned conspiracy theorist and liar. roger stone goes back to the richard nixon days, liar, but they are important to the investigation because they are involved with the organizers, involved with people coming, so how do you launch an investigation when you know the person across the table is going to refuse to cooperate or what they probably tell you is a lie? >> this is the big challenge because you can make people do a lot of things but you can't make them talk. you can make them pay money, lock them up in jail and can't make them testify if they have a strong will. that's just a fact. i would assume that the committee has information around all of them to support the things that they are saying, but at the end of the day you may not get their testimony so we'll see what happens. fortunately these individuals don't have any kind of personal privilege or executive privilege to protect them and it's just a question of, you know, a
elliott williams, i'll going to you first as an attorney.minals and bad actors lie, and alex jones is just a renowned conspiracy theorist and liar. roger stone goes back to the richard nixon days, liar, but they are important to the investigation because they are involved with the organizers, involved with people coming, so how do you launch an investigation when you know the person across the table is going to refuse to cooperate or what they probably tell you is a lie? >> this is the...
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joining me now, cnn senior media reporter oliver darcy and elliott williams.ave you both here. elliott, let me start with you. i want to know what do you think about what rittenhouse said there? >> look, he shouldn't be talking. if i were his attorney and i think any sound attorney would just advice him to keep his mouth shut for a couple reasons. number one, he's going to be sued for wrongful death and a number of things. he may believe he has a righteous moral or political case to be made but at the end of the day he'll face a number of lawsuits and everything he says on the record here ultimately can come back to bite him. so number one there is -- he has a huge interest in not talking. number two -- >> you know, ocn that point, hi attorney said he's not worried about civil suits. is he worried about glass half full or naive or trying to down play it? >> i think he's down playing it. any attorney knows that an individual who commits an act of homicide, don't say that as an insult. he acknowledged he did it will face those kinds of civil suits and again, bei
joining me now, cnn senior media reporter oliver darcy and elliott williams.ave you both here. elliott, let me start with you. i want to know what do you think about what rittenhouse said there? >> look, he shouldn't be talking. if i were his attorney and i think any sound attorney would just advice him to keep his mouth shut for a couple reasons. number one, he's going to be sued for wrongful death and a number of things. he may believe he has a righteous moral or political case to be...
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with us, civil rights attorney areva martin and cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor elliott williamsas well. guys, thank you. elliott, this case is now in the hands of the jury. they are in their eighth hour. how difficult is the decision before them? >> well, i think it's very difficult as evidenced by the fact they're now requesting to see the jury instructions. they lay out what the law is governing this case. five different charges, some lesser included charges and complicated things like reasonable doubt which we hear all the time but it's hard for jurors to understand. they'll have to unpack this for each of these individual charges. so, yes, it is -- even what may seem like common sense to outsiders watching this and i know this is a politically charged and racially charged case. at the end of the day, these folks have to assess these five charges. and the law is complicated. >> are you surprised areva, that the only thing the jurors have asked for so far today during these hours of their deliberation are these extra copies of their jury instructions? >> not surprised at all.
with us, civil rights attorney areva martin and cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor elliott williamsas well. guys, thank you. elliott, this case is now in the hands of the jury. they are in their eighth hour. how difficult is the decision before them? >> well, i think it's very difficult as evidenced by the fact they're now requesting to see the jury instructions. they lay out what the law is governing this case. five different charges, some lesser included charges and...
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cnn legal analyst former prosecutor elliott williams is with us and cnn chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin author of the book true crimes and misdemeanors, the investigation of donald trump. they just finished third day of delibe deliberations without a verdict. and he's feeling worse than i was yesterday. should the defense be getting increasingly more nervous? >> you know. i really don't think you could draw any serious conclusions from the length of the deliberation. it is not a lot deliberation. it is a complicated trial. the jury instructions are a mess as the the judge himself acknowledged. he should have -- he should have done a better job. jury instructions in the best of circumstances i find are very difficult for ordinary civilians to understand, these are an specially confusing set of instructions so i think three days of deliberations is not a particularly long time. i think if they go beyond tomorrow, that will suggest significant disagreement because jurors often wrap up things on fridays. they don't want to have to worry about it over the weekend. so i think tomorrow is a bi
cnn legal analyst former prosecutor elliott williams is with us and cnn chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin author of the book true crimes and misdemeanors, the investigation of donald trump. they just finished third day of delibe deliberations without a verdict. and he's feeling worse than i was yesterday. should the defense be getting increasingly more nervous? >> you know. i really don't think you could draw any serious conclusions from the length of the deliberation. it is not a lot...
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cnn political commentator bakari sellers and cnn legal analyst elliott williams here. happy friday.ter of these inls cident the three men charged with killing ahmaud arbery. what is the through line you see? >> i think, don, you pointed out something in the word vigilantes, you're seeing that individuals are taking what they believe to be misdeeds in their own hands, you have people storm the capitol because they felt government wasn't doing their job and people in kenosha or rittenhouse in kenosha allowing his mom to take him across state lines with an ar-15, which still blows my mind because my mom asks me if i had mcdonald's money so i can't imagine asking her if she would take me across state lines with an ar-15 but that's another story about where is his father? because government was not doing their job and then in georgia, you had individuals who thought ahmaud arbery was breaking into homes or trespassing and government wasn't doing their job so there is this through line where white men feel as if they have to take this vigilantes into their hands and this is what happens,
cnn political commentator bakari sellers and cnn legal analyst elliott williams here. happy friday.ter of these inls cident the three men charged with killing ahmaud arbery. what is the through line you see? >> i think, don, you pointed out something in the word vigilantes, you're seeing that individuals are taking what they believe to be misdeeds in their own hands, you have people storm the capitol because they felt government wasn't doing their job and people in kenosha or rittenhouse...
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joining us, elliott williams. you saw the content of that debate, which is not the first time we have seen this debate. the prosecution in the final word of the jury in their rebuttal closing arguments makes the argument that the law that applied at the time of this required for people making a citizen's arrest for there to be a felony or suspicion of a felony and for the suspect to try to escape. is if there is a felony if they try to escape, you saw the defense object to that description of the law, and even asked for a mistrial, which we should be clear the judge has denied, can you explain the law here? does the prosecutor have it right or does the defense have it right? >> we're arguing about an old law, no longer on the books. what it gave people a right to do back 100 years ago is chase slaves and it is a disgusting old law, but basically i think the prosecutor had it right, trying to follow the judge's interpretation stated charge that the court will give. the law -- for those people that maybe don't do tr
joining us, elliott williams. you saw the content of that debate, which is not the first time we have seen this debate. the prosecution in the final word of the jury in their rebuttal closing arguments makes the argument that the law that applied at the time of this required for people making a citizen's arrest for there to be a felony or suspicion of a felony and for the suspect to try to escape. is if there is a felony if they try to escape, you saw the defense object to that description of...
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[laughter] but some of the very first cheneys who came to america are buried at elliott burying ground. william cheney came in 1640, one of the great immigration of puritans who were trying to escape religious persecution in england, and who came to the united states thinking and hoping that we would become a city on a hill. some of my cheney ancestors moved to new hampshire shortly after the revolutionary war, and my great-great-grandfather, samuel fletcher cheney, was born in merrimack county, not far from here in 1829. samuel fletcher cheney moved to defiance, ohio, and enlisted in april of 1861 when president lincoln first called for troops when the civil war began. he fought in the union army for four years. he was on sherman's march to the sea. he was in the grand review parade in washington, d.c., marched past the reviewing stand with president andrew johnson and general grant. and he knew, like all of the others who fought to preserve our union, he exemplified the idea that is enshrined in the motto of new hampshire, "live free or die." they knew the price of freedom. they knew that it
[laughter] but some of the very first cheneys who came to america are buried at elliott burying ground. william cheney came in 1640, one of the great immigration of puritans who were trying to escape religious persecution in england, and who came to the united states thinking and hoping that we would become a city on a hill. some of my cheney ancestors moved to new hampshire shortly after the revolutionary war, and my great-great-grandfather, samuel fletcher cheney, was born in merrimack...