. >> i think what you're saying is they ellis aps and we will put it on. as a we will take off. gerri: we will use this excuse does show some celebrity much of it because we can and we don't feel badly about this, i guess. there you go right there. there is no gibson. here is what they say. all are presumed innocent until proven guilty. does that absolves tem? >> legally, yes. it does. that's what i'm saying. gerri: you don't even like defending the woman do you? >> is killing me. lee lee they can do this. it's public records to a first amendment. >> but let's look at thee employment context. there are laws the city you can discriminate against someone because they have been arrested and convicted if what they are convicted or arrested for is not related to the job that they do. so someone can now be asked about that. gerri: but they do it anyway. >> no the employer, even though they can ask for it, they go on and they just go in the internet and see it. that, to me is in direct contravention of what those laws are about. >> but bring that down to facebook