ellsworth kelley produced this. the light the design of the building. he put his paintings in there. harry cobb was the architect. selecting the architect and finding the painter and the decoration -- we probably spent, my guess would be an afternoon a week for three or four years. meeting after meeting after meeting. it was not easy. harry was fabulous in getting the money. i hope you look at some time. the theme of that is that it is a public building. the judges are part of a community. the building should be used for community activity. we want to bring people into it. there is, in fact, a staff there that does nothing other than trying to get the lawyers to bring high school class is in. order bring public school -- class'es in. or to bring public school students in. the jury room is used for meetings of all different kinds. >> what is the difference in the field you have in the courthouse and the one here at the supreme court? >> that is a district court, trial court, and court of appeals. the court house on the strand -- that is a feeling we want