elwell, what should the pilot have done? 21 times the system kicking in, pushing the nose down? >> mr. chairman, i did not fly the 737 so i can only speak to the airplane, all the different airplanes i flew, but -- >> i'm actually asking about this aircraft. do you know? if you don't know, that's fine. >> i'm sorry, i would have to get back to you on the specific -- there is a non-normal check list -- >> it would be helpful for us to know based on the expertise at this table what should have occurred in the cockpit based on that nose down input. mr. elwell, then discuss, if you don't mind, the point that mr. scovill mentioned, and a lot of us have, about the decision made by other countries initially to ground the aircraft, what data they had. was this just an abundance of caution or was it based on facts that these agencies had that we didn't have here in the united states? help us understand the decision there. >> yes, sir. it's a very important question. the faa, to make a decision to ground a fleet of aircraft, is going

elwell back to you. according to rise "new york times" article, boeing charged extra for safety features, these are optional add-ons. following the crash us did the faa plan to update crash safety features or take other actions that mandate the features are not optional? >> senator klobuchar, when we certify an aircraft whether it is amended or new type, critical safety features that is an important term, if something is critical safety feature on a aircraft, passenger aircraft we certify it is not optional. so critical safety features are part of the certification package and i think what you're referring to is aoa displays on the crts in the cockpit and i can tell you as a pie hot who has flown aircraft, several aircraft in the military and civilian world, i had aircraft that had aoa displays in the cockpit and i had aircraft that didn't and it all depends what the rest of the display says. in today's modern airplanes, you have 12-inch c. rts in the cockpit -- >> is it possible could be decided these a

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. >> reporter: acting faa administrator dan elwell defended the practice of relying on manufacturersike boeing to help certify their own planes.> experts in the field, that they have the appropriate understanding of faa regs and manuals. they have professional integrity is checked, everything. epter:ut transportion officials ackndgcredibility nee restored. >> confidence in faa as a gold standard for aviation safety has been shaken. >> reporter: the faa promised not to rush the 737 max back into service. elwell was light on details when pressed by senators about what changes it would make in the certification process. he did say it would cost the faa $1.8 billion and require 10,000 additional employees. >> laura podesta here in new york. thank you, laura. >>> chicago police released records outlining what they considered an ironclad case against jussie smollett. police said they were blindsided by prosecutors to drop the case. the newly released reporsmolle least three days before he spoke of the incident. police are questioning whether smollett got off easy. >> there's a sense here t

you heard elwell say, we woululd need 10,000 new inspectors. don't not about t that but thy will need more. the do not have the capacity of the agency so it will take some time to rebuild the agency. amy: let's move on to the hearing taking place today. the interior secretary and w w you have writtenen this open letter. >> out of all of the trump appointees, , this guy may be te most conflicted one coming in. he is in the running for the most conflicted cabinet appointee. he carries around a card listing all of his conflict of interest in the companies he is not supposed to work for because he cannot keep track of it. on the other hand, and is not clear why he carries around because he does not seem to use it. he is working on behalf of the companies he used to represent, intervening and a lot of --- doubt companies that he used to work foror. nermeen: why do you think trump chose him to replace ryan zinke? mo trump administration seems to be if you have an ethics crisis because someone is forced out, why don't we replace them? thisis guy was t

are you in agreement with the approach that mister elwell has outlined taken by the faa? . >> the ntsb was not involved in the grounding decision we supply data they could use to make that decision. >> administrator did you say earlier that the faa retained the authority over the t-3 system? we mac i said originally we retained it as a new system and then released it to the delegation is a designation spec so somebody characterizes it as delegated? . >> right. initially as a new system or device on the amended tax certificate we retained the oversight and then over time released that to the oda with a comfort level and oversight and then we could assure the members of boeing have the expertise and the knowledge of the system to continue going forward. >> so that kind of information is made available to members now was that part of the investigation quick. >> i'm sure, senator, we could get that information to you on the timing and how that went. the investigations and audits that our ongoing about the certification process will all become very transparent and clear. >> tr

. >> a conference call for the federal aviation administration has started with daniel elwell on the record likely to get questions or to talk about why the faa has reversed course when for the last few days, they've been saying their full confidence was behind this aircraft but the statement that they released on ethiopian airlines is that the faa is ordering the temporary grounding of the boeing 737 max aircraft operated by u.s. airlines or in the u.s. territory. the agency made the decision as a result of the data gathering process and new evidence collected at the site and analyzed today that's significant the evidence together with newly refined satellite data available to the faa this morning led to the decision the grounding will remain in effect pending further investigation including examination of information from the aircraft's flight data recorders and cockpit voice recorders and faa team is in ethiopia assisting the ntsb as parties to the investigation of the flight 302 accident. now listen, here's the thing the president came out and said there was a change in informati

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according to reuters, dan elwell who is scheduled to testify tomorrow is expected to say the agency's oversight approach must evolve followi those two fatal crashes since october. the faa is expected toe receive inal version of boeing's software update later this week for evaluation. >>> separately lufthansa says it has not lost trust in boeing. the german airli plans to expand its fleet next year but has yet to decide whether it will buy boeing or airbus >>> smaller health insurers that have exposure to medicaid came under pressuretoday. this after a texas district court's decision that the affordab care acts unconstitutional should be affirmed. wellcare has some exposure. eports late e tonight that centene and wellcare are in takeovks. >>> congress went back to work in washington today and there are a number of policy issues that need to be worke out, as usual. ylan mui is following that story for us. what's on the agenda now that the mller investigation is over. >> reporter: there are two big issues that dominated the discussion on capitol hill today. the first one was health care.

elwell, thanks for joining us this morning.egin by describing that data that finally convinced you to ground the max 8. >> tuesday night the raw data that was available at the very beginning of this tragedy on sunday night and monday morning was not matched with the lion air accident that happened five months ago. boeing and a company called areon that operates the satellites that receive the data and the ntsb were able to refine the data points and to create a profile of the flight for its entirety, and when we could see the refined data, it matched too closely to the lion air trajectory to discern or to figure that they weren't similar. >> any sense yet of how long the planes are going to be grounded and what specifically do you hope to learn from the black boxes? >> so, we don't know how long the planes will be grounded. we have -- the black boxes have left ethiopia. they did not have the capability to read the data from the boxes because of the damage. so they were flown to france. they are in france now and we hope to star

look at dan elwell, worked for the aerospace, what it is, is the aviation industrial association, i think basically lobbying to d.c. about this and now he's in charge of the faa. so that doesn't make any sense at all to me, but what does make sense, chris, is that if i was in that, and i had those close ties with the industry, why in the world would i want to ground that industry? you know, that's where i think someone has skin in the game here. this is where someone had, was responsible for that industry and was too close to the industry and didn't want that industry to feel the impact that grounding those airplanes would have. >> and another weird part of this that happened. not just the timing but the tone. the president, the white house put out this statement today saying they ordered it. i'd never seen that before. you know, the white house doing it. the faa comes out and says, no, no, we're in charge. that's not true. they work for the executive. but the faa said, no, we did this and obviously we have the cabinet secretary on top of us as the transportation secretary. she was with u

administrator daniel elwell edounded the max citing new satellite data showing flight 302 pitched up down after takeoff in a way similar to the lion air 737-max that crashed in october. should this action have been taken in october or november of last year? >> if it was an unsafe airplane, it wouldn't be certified. ee're confident in the safety of the airplane. what we don't know is if there's ilinkage between those two accidents. and, now that we have the new evidence, we grounded the airplanes to find the linkage. ag reporter: those are hard toughts to put together. the plane is safe, but you can't fly it. >> i'm confident the max will fly again, but we have to determine if the a lin >> reporter: captain dennis tajer flies the 737-max, and is o spokesman for american airline pilots who met with boeing in november. loe pilots were frustrated goeing was not more forthcoming gith new systems on the max until after the lion air crash. >> the meeting was tense. the trust was broken. there was information that was withheld from our manual, for ematever reason, information regarding a sys

administrator dan elwell will tell senators, "we know our oversight approach needs to evolve to ensurehat the f.a.a. remains the global leader in achieving aviation safety." part of that evolution will be i rview of safety oversight. the agency hopes to have that done by july but admits with all ef the other investigations into the 737 max, it could take longer. jeff. >> glor: all right, kris, thanks very much. the justice department said today the attorney general will release more of robert mueller's special counsel report within weeks, not months. but already it appears both parties are pivoting to another issue. here's paula reid. >> reporter: president trump continued his victory lap on capitol hill today. >> the mueller report was great. it could not have been better. >> reporter: republican senators who ate lunch with the president described him as "in a good mood" and "rejuvenated" even as democrats demanded to see the full mueller report by april 2. >> reporter: but both parties also tried to move on today, turning the page to health care. >> the republican party will soon be

. >> reporter: acting faa administrator daniel elwell grounded the max, citing new satellite data. that crashed in october. >> should this action have been taken in october or november of last year? >> if it was an unsafe ai certi. we're confident in the safety of the airplane, what we don't know if there is a linkage between those two accidents and now that we have the new evidence, we grounded the airplanes to find the linkage. >> those are hard thoughts to put together, the plane is safe but you can't fly it. >> i'm confident the 73 max will fly again but we have to determine if there is a link. >> reporter: who met with boeing in november. the pilots were frustrated boeing was not forthcoming about new systems on the max until after the lion air crash. >> the meeting was tense. the trust was broken. there was information that was withheld from our manual, for whatever reason, information regarding a system that was of critical importance to us. >> reporter: the possibility of a long grounding is now a billion-dollar dilemma for boeing and the airlines. president trump had a mes

ainl elwell himself worked for the lobbying arm of boeing, is that closeness, is the uninte unintended consequences of that bha puts the person people at risk. >> jeff, thank you for covering this on capitol hill. contributing head tor at flying magazine, thank you for being with us. you have been with us throughout this discussion. we heard from elaine choi that said they have to have a reason for it because you don't have a reason for ungrounding the plane, and on those first two days they didn't feel they had a valid reason to ground the planes, with the benefit of hindsight, you and i were talking about this, the world was grounding these plala theset is the right thing to do? >> i have a hard time arguing with her, we're still in a current field investigation with that accident, and there is a probable cause that hasz to come out. but a probable cause of what puts an payroll into an accident, there is usually numerous as pneumoninumerous fae nor it, but with regards to grounding it at that particular time, there was not enough factual data to say hey, we have to ground our domesti

dan elwell the current acting head of the faa moved up from deputy to running the faa.ill not be in that position once steve dickson moves in i have talked with a few people in the airline industry and they've all said at the same thing. steve dickson is highlighted respected. graduated number one from his class at the air force academy he is somebody to come into the job with a lot of credentials an respect within the airline community. guys, back to you. >> phil, thanks very much. look forward to discussing it in more detail coming up but we'll go to break. the close is four minutes away (vo) we're carvana, the company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100% online. now we've created a brand new way for you to sell your car. whether it's a few years old or dinosaur old, we want to buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate, answer a few questions, and our techno-wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot, and pick up your car. that's it. so ditch

several senators who wrote that letter will also be questioning elwell at this hearing we'll keep you posted on how that goes. back to you. >> what are we expecting the overall tone to be, ylan one of general inquiry as opposed to outright criticism at this stage >> reporter: i think there will be outright criticism, perhaps from both sides of the aisle ted cruz, chairman of that subcommittee was on this morning with a lot of questions for both the company and for the agency that oversees it i suspect that that's the tone we're going to hear throughout the next few hours. >> okay. ylan, thank you very much. as lawmakers discuss regulation, boeing is giving new details about its software fix for the 737 max. phil lebeau has details for us in washington state. hey, phil. >> hi, wilf. pilots, regulators, executives at the company's 737 facility. here are the changes of the 737 max. a lot of these have to do with the mcas, that pushed the nose of the plane down in certain situations sensors will be giving data. if they disagree by more than 5 1/2 degrees, mcas system is disabled there wil

you heard the acting an min straighter daniel elwell.id it takes more than guts to ground a fleet. but there were more than these similarities some of why was the u.s. the last major nation to ground this boeing model? >> you know, i don't know, dana, but i agri with what he said. it takes more than a gut reaction. after two crashes and people being killed including seven americans perished in the last crash, that's more than a gut reaction. that should -- the immediate reaction when the ethiopian crash occurred and seven americans perished was ground those planes. let's find out what's wrong with them. so, you know, the idea that, you know, it's more than a gut reaction, my gosh, when you have people perish in a plane and it's the second one, you should -- they would have immediately grounded those planes. look it. we didn't mess around when we were at d.o.t. and the dreamliner was having these batteries catch fire in the hulls of the planes. we grounded the planes. was it a pleasant decision? of course, not. i talked to the ceo of boei

daniel elwell/ faa acting administrator: "when the faa makes a decision like grounding airplanes, any safety decision of that magnitude, we do it based on data. were a data-driven organization. its why u.s. aviation has been so incredibly safe. (grant)(grant) you'll see from photos that were also tweeted that they looked fairly damaged. however, this is obviously fairly common. these boxes are designed to withstand huge amounts of pressure, fire, water. until they really start the technical investigation tomorrow experts won't know whether the data's been compromised. the u-s has also said it's dispatching three investigators to paris to help with the investigation. in terms of getting information and results from this, a preliminary report is usually expected in the first 30 days... sometimes it comes within a week. (terisa) president trump's national emergency declaration to fund a border from his own party today. lawmakers are now sending a bill to the president's desk that would terminate his current plan, setting the stage for what would be trump's first veto as president... 12 r

i'm surprised that, frankly, that elaine chao, director of transportation or elwell, the faa administrator hadn't made this decision before. i'm not sure why it had to get to that level. i'm certain that the president spoke with elaine chao about it, i would presume. i guess i'm not certain, but i would presume that he spoke with her about it. so the fact that this had to go all the way to that level is very surprising. it's unprecedented. >> fred, why the delay? you know what, there's a lot that goes into this and i suspect because part of the problem is, if you talk to the pilot's union at southwest, i've been to southwest and been to their training facility and you talk to people that operate these airplanes, they'll tell you, there's two parts to it, the airplane itself and then the training. and what they were waiting to see is whether or not this was a training issue or a problem with the airplane. look, the bottom line is, you cannot go wrong by grounding the aircraft. it's an inconvenience versus an opportunity for a disaster, which nobody wants to see. we've already had two, which

administrator daniel elwell said sethe agency reversed courfter new data indicated similarities between sunday's crash and october's crash of a lion air 737-max in indonesia that killed 189 people. >> the evidence that we found on the ground made it even more likely that the flight path was very close to lion a. >> yang: the f.a.a. had been virtually alone in not grounding the plane. that isolation grew this morning, when canadian transport minister marc garneau acted. >> all i can say is, based on the new information that we got this morning, that was enough to cause us to make this decision. the americans will do their own thing. >> yang: today, boeing said it laontinues to have full confidence" in the's safety, but supported the f.a.a.'s action.ou 72 of the ed airliners are operated by three u.s.-based carriers: american, southwest and united. tonight, they are scrambling to substitute other planes and rebook passengers from cancelled flights. for the pbs newshour, i'm john yang. >>oodruff: joining me now talk about the f.a.a.'s decision today is newshour's science correspoent, miles

i have spoken to secretary of transportation, dan elwell, acting administrator of the faa, and to denniserg, the ceo of boeing. they will be available shortly after our conference today. they are all in agreement with the action. any plane currently in the air will go to its destination and there after be grounded until further notice. planes that are in the air will be grounded, if they're the 737 max, will be grounded upon landing at their destination. pilots have been notified. airlines have been all notified. airlines are agreeing with this. the safety of the american people, and all peoples is our paramount concern. our hearts go out to all of those who lost loved ones, to their friends, their families in the ethiopian and lyon airlines crashes that involved the 737 max aircraft. it's a terrible, terrible thing. boeing is an incredible company. they are working very, very hard right now and hopefully they'll very quickly come up with the answer. but until they do -- >> dana: all right. president trump making big news there. let's get reaction here. joining me now chris stirewalt, su

daniel elwell saying it became clear to all parties the track well --light was very very close and behaved similar to the lion air flight. crushing in indonesia. there have been long speculated connections. i had a conversation with a triple seven pilot who has trained. he says they were very similar and perhaps had the same problem. the faa is not determining it is exactly the same cause, but there is enough evidence to ground it until there is more conclusive evidence. be safe than sorry. stephen engle in hong kong. ben ritchie still with us. you look at equities, talk to me about whether you are concerned about any of the suppliers given bad news racks up. >> the supply chain is long. clearly those companies are going to have some issues. some of the companies most exposed, the same sort of comments around the supply chain. being balanced in terms of their risk appraisal. >> i want to get a sense of where you are. houses saying we are at a tug-of-war moment. to buy some i want options on the dax. this may be one of those pivotal moments. central-bank policy and words could also be an im

i've spoken to elaine chao, secretary of transportation, van elwell, acting administrator of the faannis muilenburg ceo of boeing. they will be available shortly after our conference today. they are all in agreement with the action. any plane currently in the air will go to the destination, thereafter be grounded until further notice. so planes that are in the air will be grounded if they are the 737 max, will be grounded upon landing at the destination. pilots have been notified. airlines have been all notified. airlines are agreeing with us. the sate of the american people and all people is our paramount concern. our hearts go out to all of those who lost loved ones, to their friends, to families, in both ethiopian and lyon air crashes that involved the 737 maxair craft. it's a terrible, terrible thing. boeing is an incredible company. they are working very, very hard right now, an hopefully they will very quickly come up with the answer but until they do the planes are grounded and you will be hearing from the faa directly in a little while. would i say probably in 45 minutes from

we spoke yesterday with daniel elwell he said no global pressure or political pressure what changed forgot some new definitive evidence, data from the ground, data from refined satellites that showed these paths were similar until then they didn't have the data so they don't know that the motivations for -- i asked him about the motivations for some of the other global governments that were grounding these planes he said we don't know their motivations, but we didn't have the data until yesterday. >> i think they have had the data on the elevations since the time of the crash. that has been pubically available from a variety of sources. i'm not really sure what kind of evidence they pulled out of the hole in the ground in ethiopia, but i think dan was just in a tough position where the president went out before him and made the call and then i think the faa was kind of asked to justify the -- the decision >> do you think paris will treat the black boxes any differently than d.c. would? >> i hope not. i really hope not, but they are professionals over there i think they will do the best

discussion >> that was an exchange between senator ed markey and acting faa administrator daniel elwellng. earlier in the day boeing laid out plans to fix the problem with the 737 max phil lebeau joins us with more >> mike, we were out in renton yesterday and the day before talking with airlines, with pilots, some of those who had a chance to look at the new software fix and they believe this will do the trick in terms of alleviating any confusion or concern there might be that pilots are not fully aware of how the mcas automated flight control system works within the 737 max. so let me bring you up to speed in terms of the latest with the max and where things stand the pilots, about 200 of them with regulators tested the software in a boeing simulator yesterday. boeing will submit this software, along with its plan for enhanced pilot training. they are going to submit that to the faa, likely by tomorrow, if not early next week and then the faa certification most believe it's probably going to take a week to two weeks, and as you mentioned, there was the hearing in washington yesterday,

. >> one thing to attention faa touted they waited until they had data daniel elwell acting administratorrly as last sunday afternoon hours after the crash, that there was data out from a company called flightaware, showing the same thing basically that arian is showing plane had fast, fast speed i mean hitting the ground super high speed impact, it showed that the airplane had vertical oscillation from altitude changes a little disingenuous to ask that question how the administration a little disingenuous many including former faa inspectors saying as early as monday they could already see from flight path the aircraft had problems probably related. mechanical system. >> what is this doing to air travel in united states 737 max does this effect other 737s or kayak allowing people to search by aircraft are we having people not willing to fly all 737s, what is going on at airports. >> i hope that -- because 737 wonderful plane been around over decades 10,000 flying this is 737 max 8 and 9 modelsive in the u.s. not even 100 those flying i believe 93 or 94 flying, around that, i don't think

we've focused on is they've killed 346 people in less than -- here's acting faa administrator daniel elwell on "closing bell. >> wernl certainly aware of what was going on around the world, but we didn't feel global pressure as i said, we are a data driven action oriented agency, and we don't make zugss about grounding aircraft or regulating or even shutdown decisions for airports or aircraft without actionable data in this case the actionable data didn't arrive until today. >>> white house president trump spoke about that decision and defended the faa >> we all agree this was the right decision to make didn't have to be made, about ut with he thought it was the right decision >> they acted very quickly, and we acted very fact-based, and very much working with other countries and with the airlines. >> faa said that the grounding will remain in effect while it investigates the crash boeing said it recommended taking the 737 max planes out of service out of an abundance of caution and an abundance of caution that was only after the president told them. >> everybody is taking credit for doing