back with me, elyse jordan and bass sele smikly. don't know if you ever listen to alicia keys, but she had a great song you don't know my name. and if you look up here, 28% of people don't know pence, 27% don't know tim kaine. and if you remember the video for that song, you know, it's all about her having a crush on a guy and he comes in to the coffee shop and he wants to date her but he's singing you don't even know my name. how do we get there. how am i even going to get you to like me if you don't know who i am. and that is a quarter of the voters. so how critical is tuesday to deal with that alicia keys question? >> it's funny because somebody some weeks back when both choices were made for vice president said watching the first debate will be like watching an episode of frazier. and i happen to love frazier. but what i think you're going to see to answer your question and to respond to that tweet is that i think it will be more policy driven than the presidential was because hillary clinton talked a lot about policy but donald

, not as much on the air as we are talking this morning, but mika i think there's a reason why elyse jordane telling things out of the focus groups has to be with the media bias, the disconnect between voters and the media whether you are talking about donald trump i -- supporters or bernie sanders's supporters. >> and from the get go, why people were instantly following donald trump, the media missed the story and they have been behind the 8 ball every since, and that's where we are at. i am not saying they are trying to tilt the election or these dreadful allegations are not true or are true, but they are important. i think the tapes are horrific. i knew a lot of this stuff was baked in the cake with donald trump, and everybody else is fluttering around the concept of his candidacy because they just didn't get it. there's the donald trump that says incredible things, that stands for some things i can't even speak of, but then there's the people who see hope in his success, and see hope in his candidacy, and that is something that reporters missed, that editors missed and people were so ho