. >> elzi, i don't get it. to change gun laws -- first of all, anna is right. nothing ever happens. gun laws and to have people to take people's guns away, it's never going to happen. do you know how long that would take? so people go out -- that's -- what is the rationaleization? that is not rationale. >> it's completely irrationale, and, yet, it's not just with school shootings. if you remember in arizona after a representative gifford was shot, the guns that were used in that attack spiked in arizona, so, you know, i don't know what this is except for one driving force, one driving reason. simply we don't trust each other. we don't believe we have each other's backs in these situations so we think the only reason we can do is have our own back, and we see guns as a way of doing that. any discussion of trying to work towards peace is dismissed as use tomorrowian. not realistic. people automatically start looking at ways in which they can protect themselves. it's very, very sad. especially as a father of a 16-year-old, i'm not as concerned, to tell you the truth, with the mass shoo