i used an extreme example of embarcade embarcadero, but if it's really expensive, i would not buy lunch there every day. or to eat at two restaurants all the time. i don't know how it will play out in the hearings, but i really hope it's part of the conversation, but i do see on your list of factors that planning commission would consider whether an employer would subsidize or pay for meals outside of the cafeteria. >> supervisor safai: that was a suggestion that came up. a lot of people talked about that there were -- there was a conversation about employees that were existing in working for companies that had these and said, if we had the opportunity to have a card system, we would spend that money. some of the surrounding companies do that, where they give employees and a relationship with them and surrounding businesses to say, you get a discount or -- so that was the purpose of that. kind of incorporating some of the feedback that we've gotten as this story went wildly national. >> supervisor tang: i think it's a great idea for employers to think about. also, i think -- let's see h