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shroff claims are viable embryonic stem cells.ll derived from a single embryo, she says, that she harvested years ago while an infertility specialist. 6-year-old cash burnaman winces as he gets his injections. shroff, who opened the doors of her clinic to cnn, would not take us to the lab where she says the embryonic stem cells themselves are manufactured. do you call yourself a pioneer? you seem to be very self-taught in this regard. >> yes, i am. >> reporter: a pioneer? >> maybe, yes. maybe. >> reporter: inventor? >> yeah. because it's a totally different way of handling stem cells. >> reporter: josh burnaman brought his son, cash, here because there is nowhere else to take him. his condition is incurable. he does hope for the best, but outside the clinic, in a park out of earshot of dr. geeta shroff, josh burnaman openly wonders if he, his ex-wife, and especially cash are being duped. >> is this working? >> that's the most difficult question for me because i have to try to be objective about it. because every time we go we're i
shroff claims are viable embryonic stem cells.ll derived from a single embryo, she says, that she harvested years ago while an infertility specialist. 6-year-old cash burnaman winces as he gets his injections. shroff, who opened the doors of her clinic to cnn, would not take us to the lab where she says the embryonic stem cells themselves are manufactured. do you call yourself a pioneer? you seem to be very self-taught in this regard. >> yes, i am. >> reporter: a pioneer? >>...
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embryonic stem cells being injected into incurable patients like cash. and patients, reportedly, who were showing signs of improvement. but there were no formal studies, just what was available on the internet. >> and it's risky medical therapy, but i knew that we were going to have to do it. >> reporter: where's the studies? where's the science? >> we did pick this clinic for a reason. i mean, we did look around, and we decided that this was the place where we felt safe, like she had a good track record. >> reporter: late in 2010 stephanie krolick, josh burnaman and their son, cash, spent five weeks in new delhi at a clinic where a doctor said she would inject embryonic stem cells into cash's little body. stephanie krolick says before that visit, cash could not walk. he stumbled. now, with the help of braces, he carefully maneuvers on the sidewalk outside the apartment where he lives. it has made stephanie a believer. anybody who has kids can tell you, my kid was crawling, then my kid was walking. >> mm-hmm. >> reporter: it happened overnight. >> mm-hmm
embryonic stem cells being injected into incurable patients like cash. and patients, reportedly, who were showing signs of improvement. but there were no formal studies, just what was available on the internet. >> and it's risky medical therapy, but i knew that we were going to have to do it. >> reporter: where's the studies? where's the science? >> we did pick this clinic for a reason. i mean, we did look around, and we decided that this was the place where we felt safe, like...
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she has a lab that she says culterates these embryonic stem cells.e were not allowed to visit that lab. for all we know, they were injecting sugar water into these patients. >> all right, drew, griffin, appreciate it, "selling a miracle" is on 8 p.m. sunday night, eastern time. thanks. >>> tonight, a video that a massachusetts school fought hard to suppress it is renewing calls to close the school. this is a former student strapped down and being shocked through electrodes, electroshocks, you can hear his screams, his mom calls it torture. the school calls it therapy for troubled kids. you will hear from both sides ahead. >>> new details tonight in the search of a chicago man suspected of murdering his new bride. by the time her body was found in their bathtub, he is long gone. now the fbi is on his cell phone trail. >>> tonight a "360" follow-up a new push to shutdown a controversial school we first reported on back in 2006, called the judge rotenberg center in canton, massachusetts. it is different from any other school in the country. you are goin
she has a lab that she says culterates these embryonic stem cells.e were not allowed to visit that lab. for all we know, they were injecting sugar water into these patients. >> all right, drew, griffin, appreciate it, "selling a miracle" is on 8 p.m. sunday night, eastern time. thanks. >>> tonight, a video that a massachusetts school fought hard to suppress it is renewing calls to close the school. this is a former student strapped down and being shocked through...
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she has a lab that she says culterates these embryonic stem cells.owed to visit that lab. for all we know, they were injecting sugar water into these patients. >> all right, drew, griffin, appreciate it, "selling a miracle" is on 8 p.m. sunday night, eastern time. thanks. >>> tonight, a video that a massachusetts school fought hard to suppress it is renewing calls to close the school. this is a former student strapped down and being shocked through electrodes, electroshocks, you can hear his screams, his mom calls it torture. the school calls it therapy for troubled kids. you will hear from both sides ahead. why nature made? they were the first to be verified by the usp. an independent organization that sets strict quality and purity standards. and that's why i trust nature made. nature made the number one pharmacist recommended letter vitamin brand. learn more at naturemade.com >>> new details tonight in the search of a chicago man suspected of murdering his new bride. by the time her body was found in their bathtub, he is long gone. now the fbi is
she has a lab that she says culterates these embryonic stem cells.owed to visit that lab. for all we know, they were injecting sugar water into these patients. >> all right, drew, griffin, appreciate it, "selling a miracle" is on 8 p.m. sunday night, eastern time. thanks. >>> tonight, a video that a massachusetts school fought hard to suppress it is renewing calls to close the school. this is a former student strapped down and being shocked through electrodes,...
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she says she were embryonic stem cells.he patients really have no way to prove that we had no way to prove that. she has a lab that she says cult rate ises these embryonic stem cells. we were not allowed to visit that lab. for all we know, they were injecting sugar water into these patients. >> all right, drew, griffin, appreciate it, "selling a miracle" is on 8 p.m. sunday night, eastern time. thanks. >>> tonight, a video that a massachusetts school fought hard to suppress it is renewing calls to close the school t she is former student strapped down and being shocked through electrodes, electroshocks, you can hear his screams, his mom calls it torture. the school calls it therapy for troubled kids. you will hear from both sides ahead. i like taking advil® for a headache. it nips it in the bud. and i can be that mommy that i want to be. ♪ [ male announcer ] take action. take advil®. (female announcer) most life insurance companies look at you and just see a policy. at aviva, we do things differently. we're bringing humanit
she says she were embryonic stem cells.he patients really have no way to prove that we had no way to prove that. she has a lab that she says cult rate ises these embryonic stem cells. we were not allowed to visit that lab. for all we know, they were injecting sugar water into these patients. >> all right, drew, griffin, appreciate it, "selling a miracle" is on 8 p.m. sunday night, eastern time. thanks. >>> tonight, a video that a massachusetts school fought hard to...
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she has a lab that she says culterates these embryonic stem cells. not allowed to visit that lab. for all we know, they were injecting sugar water into these patients. >> all right, drew, griffin, appreciate it, "selling a miracle" is on 8 p.m. sunday night, eastern time. thanks. >>> tonight, a video that a massachusetts school fought hard to suppress it is renewing calls to close the school. this is a former student strapped down and being shocked through electrodes, electroshocks, you can hear his screams, his mom calls it torture. the school calls it therapy for troubled kids. you will hear from both sides ahead. hello ? hello ?! if your bank doesn't let you talk to a real person 24/7, you need an ally. hello ? ally bank. no nonsense. just people sense. with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain. tell your doctor right
she has a lab that she says culterates these embryonic stem cells. not allowed to visit that lab. for all we know, they were injecting sugar water into these patients. >> all right, drew, griffin, appreciate it, "selling a miracle" is on 8 p.m. sunday night, eastern time. thanks. >>> tonight, a video that a massachusetts school fought hard to suppress it is renewing calls to close the school. this is a former student strapped down and being shocked through electrodes,...
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they created moto neuron cells from human embryonic stem cells. the neuron cells contained a gene responsible for 2% of als cases. they found that the cells used in the experiment died in the same way as the cells affected by the disease. and the team re-created cell death by introducing culture taken from a type of cell blamed for the worsening of the condition. the culture killed motor neuron cells just as in cases of als. the experts hope their results will show how neuron cells are killed by the disease and lead to a breakthrough. >>> astronomiers have discovered some asteroids between march and jupiter and named them afterareas devastated by the march 11th disaster. the international astronomical union approved the namings. members of the organization agreed that the move might give a boost to rebuilding efforts. the 12 new names include the prefectures of miyagi and iwate as well as rikuzentakata. members also chose the village of sakaemura and tsunamachi. an earthquake struck both areas a day after the march 11th disaster. the deputy head o
they created moto neuron cells from human embryonic stem cells. the neuron cells contained a gene responsible for 2% of als cases. they found that the cells used in the experiment died in the same way as the cells affected by the disease. and the team re-created cell death by introducing culture taken from a type of cell blamed for the worsening of the condition. the culture killed motor neuron cells just as in cases of als. the experts hope their results will show how neuron cells are killed...
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they created motor neuron cells from human embryonic stem cells. they found that the cells used in the experiment died in the same way as cells affected by the disease. the team also re-created cell death by introducing culture taken from a type of cell blamed for the worsening of the condition. the culture killed motor neuron cells just as in cases of als. the experts hope that their results will show how neuron cells are destroying -- destroyed by the disease and lead to a breakthrough in the treatment of als. >>> south korean exports like samsung and lg are famous around the world, but south korea is also making a name for itself as an importer of students. an increasing number of young people from asia's emerging countries are traveling there to study. south korea's government and business communities are trying to make the most of their talents. nhk world's anna jung has the story. >> reporter: i'm at a university classroom about an hour away from seoul. almost half of the students here have come from overseas to study in south korea. the depa
they created motor neuron cells from human embryonic stem cells. they found that the cells used in the experiment died in the same way as cells affected by the disease. the team also re-created cell death by introducing culture taken from a type of cell blamed for the worsening of the condition. the culture killed motor neuron cells just as in cases of als. the experts hope that their results will show how neuron cells are destroying -- destroyed by the disease and lead to a breakthrough in the...
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we asked to go to the lab where these embryonic stem cells are manufactured in a way and we were deniedth something and these patients seem to feel that it is helping them. >> it almost seems like there is a suggestion that this is something that they are thinking, that it is a mental thing, that they are thinking that somehow they feel better, that there is no evidence that really is happening? >> that's an absolutely correct. as you will see, we followed this one child, his name is cash and his parents love him so much. they raised all of this money, $75,000 raised. they went over to india not once but twice hoping there would be some kind of help for cash who has an incurable genetic disorder. they want to believe it not only for their son's life but they want to believe it so they're not embarrassed by raising all of this money and spending it on this unproven treatment. what you will see in this hour is really the struggle that so many people go through. they're at the end of their rope. there is as many of them told us, there is no plan b, so where do i go? the doctor is providing
we asked to go to the lab where these embryonic stem cells are manufactured in a way and we were deniedth something and these patients seem to feel that it is helping them. >> it almost seems like there is a suggestion that this is something that they are thinking, that it is a mental thing, that they are thinking that somehow they feel better, that there is no evidence that really is happening? >> that's an absolutely correct. as you will see, we followed this one child, his name...
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one of the things i worked on was an an tern tif method for generating human embryonic stem cells. and it was a 34e9 thod that
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>> yes, commissioner, although i would characterize it as embryonic at this point. we are not the only area or a municipality in california that has been left hanging by the -- especially, the suddeness of the change with redevelopment. there is a forming a coalition, especially urban core jurisdictions like san francisco, oakland, to some extent san jose, and some of the older cities in southern california. they are looking for an opening legislatively to try to find some relief. supervisor cohen: my specific question is, are our legislators actually moving to introduce that legislation? >> yes, there is a movement underway. i do not know, however, that we will see a successful bill this session. if nothing else, because only so many ways to deal with this issue of the capture of the value of land development, and the governor has sent over a strong signal in the way he has treated the redevelopment movement. so there is the distinct threat that the governor would not sign a bill this session. so i believe what needs to be done is quite a bit of discussion and nego
>> yes, commissioner, although i would characterize it as embryonic at this point. we are not the only area or a municipality in california that has been left hanging by the -- especially, the suddeness of the change with redevelopment. there is a forming a coalition, especially urban core jurisdictions like san francisco, oakland, to some extent san jose, and some of the older cities in southern california. they are looking for an opening legislatively to try to find some relief....
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one of the things i worked on was an alternative method for generating embryonic stem cells. it was a method that spare embryos. it did not require their destruction. the presentation was given in neutral terms and i presented it to schools. the interesting thing that represented is the whispered approval in the hallways afterward. it is not the kind of thing that can be expressed openly. there is enormous suppression of anything that does not adhere to the extreme liberal orthodoxy. one imagines the ultimate expression of dissent is the assertion of a conscientious objection. it becomes more difficult in such an environment. i have become an advisor to residents from other institutions who feel that in their evaluations are separate because they have asserted an objection to performing some of the extreme procedures that are now routinely required. i was on the president's council a few years ago on bioethics. there was testimony by a governing body that medical practitioners do not have a right to conscientious objection. there is no limit. in that absence of laments, it is
one of the things i worked on was an alternative method for generating embryonic stem cells. it was a method that spare embryos. it did not require their destruction. the presentation was given in neutral terms and i presented it to schools. the interesting thing that represented is the whispered approval in the hallways afterward. it is not the kind of thing that can be expressed openly. there is enormous suppression of anything that does not adhere to the extreme liberal orthodoxy. one...
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i started to give him some advice on embryonic stem cells. i knew sarah palin was against embryonic stem cell research, but she didn't say anything unintelligent. because she didn't say anything. [laughter] but, the relevant part is not the substance of the conversation. the relevant part was sitting knee to knee in these close quarters. do you know the length of sarah's skirts? almost everybody does. and you know when you sit down, as gertz don't go down, and she is a very beautiful woman, very sensual. i wrote this very discreetly. the general approved of it. [laughter] but it has attracted more attention than my ideas on how to solve the nuclear issue with iran. [laughter] well i'm really delighted to be joined by mike castle because mike castle is a bloody warrior like arlen specter. mike castle served with great distinction in delaware as lieutenant governor and then as governor. five terms in the house of representatives, so taking tough positions inside a tough, tough party apparatus. when he was in his caucus, as i, the republican cau
i started to give him some advice on embryonic stem cells. i knew sarah palin was against embryonic stem cell research, but she didn't say anything unintelligent. because she didn't say anything. [laughter] but, the relevant part is not the substance of the conversation. the relevant part was sitting knee to knee in these close quarters. do you know the length of sarah's skirts? almost everybody does. and you know when you sit down, as gertz don't go down, and she is a very beautiful woman,...
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journey of hopeless people striving to find some kind of hope at a clinic in india that is promising embryonicll therapy that can relieve their incurable conditions. it is an especially emotional story following this one child, cash, and whether or not any of it did any good. >> it is heartbreaking to look at the pictures, too of them making this journey. drew, thank you, and watch the special report selling a miracle, sunday night at 8:00 eastern. great work. >>> a woman is kidnapped from a mall and held at gun point and raped and the suspect is a former police detective. she says he even told her to smile for the camera. now his defense in court, you will not believe it. [ baby crying ] ♪ what started as a whisper ♪ every day, millions of people choose to do the right thing. ♪ slowly turned to a scream ♪ there's an insurance company that does that, too. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? ♪ amen, omen [siri] yes, it appears to be raining. oooh...let's get tomato soup delivered. [siri] i found a number of restaurants [siri] whose reviews mention tomato soup and that
journey of hopeless people striving to find some kind of hope at a clinic in india that is promising embryonicll therapy that can relieve their incurable conditions. it is an especially emotional story following this one child, cash, and whether or not any of it did any good. >> it is heartbreaking to look at the pictures, too of them making this journey. drew, thank you, and watch the special report selling a miracle, sunday night at 8:00 eastern. great work. >>> a woman is...
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i started to give him some advice on embryonic stem cells. i knew sarah palin was against embryonic stem cell research, but she didn't say anything unintelligent. because she didn't say anything. [laughter] but, the relevant part is not the substance of the conversation. the relevant part was sitting knee to knee in these close quarters. do you know the length of sarah's skirts? almost everybody does. and you know when you sit down, as gertz don't go down, and she is a very beautiful woman, very sensual. i wrote this very discreetly. the general approved of it. [laughter] but it has attracted more attention than my ideas on how to solve the nuclear issue with iran. [laughter] well i'm really delighted to be joined by mike castle because mike castle is a bloody warrior like arlen specter. mike castle served with great distinction in delaware as lieutenant governor and then as governor. five terms in the house of representatives, so taking tough positions inside a tough, tough party apparatus. when he was in his caucus, as i, the republican cau
i started to give him some advice on embryonic stem cells. i knew sarah palin was against embryonic stem cell research, but she didn't say anything unintelligent. because she didn't say anything. [laughter] but, the relevant part is not the substance of the conversation. the relevant part was sitting knee to knee in these close quarters. do you know the length of sarah's skirts? almost everybody does. and you know when you sit down, as gertz don't go down, and she is a very beautiful woman,...
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it's the current embryonic transition in me and more succeeds in bringing that country back after its quarter-century of repression and stagnation and pariah status got a great deal of the credit will be owing to aung san suu kyi. in 1988, as i'm sure you all know, she was propelled from the obscurity of an english academic life to become leader of burma's democracy movement. and following her party's 1990 electoral victory in the subsequent military crackdown, she spent most of the next two decades under house arrest, like mahatma ghandi and nelson mandela before her, her oppressors only succeeded in making her an even more potent and important symbol of our country. and now that she's happily come out of confinement and will compete in the upcoming elections, the whole world is watching to see what the next chapter of this extraordinary story will be. this excellent book, "the lady and the peacock: the life of aung san suu kyi," will remain an indispensable part of that story. it will be on sale afterwards in back of the hall, and i hope you all buy it and the author peter popham wi
it's the current embryonic transition in me and more succeeds in bringing that country back after its quarter-century of repression and stagnation and pariah status got a great deal of the credit will be owing to aung san suu kyi. in 1988, as i'm sure you all know, she was propelled from the obscurity of an english academic life to become leader of burma's democracy movement. and following her party's 1990 electoral victory in the subsequent military crackdown, she spent most of the next two...
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pleasure to introduce a new biography of one offi the most compelling figures will last 25 years the embryonic transition ofng myanmar succeeds to bringtry bk that country back from repression and pariah status of a great deal close back8, aso to aung san suu kyi who was propelled from the obscurity of the english academic life to become the leader of the burma democracies movement and after her victory and the military crackdown spent the next two decades under house arrest. like mandela before her they only succeeded to make her moreop potent symbol of her country.of now she is out of wh confinement the whole worldne is watching the elections be and the fed next extraordinary story. the book "the lady and theof tht peacock" the life of aung san suu kyi is the indispensable part of the story. it is on sale afterwards ie you hope you will buy it and the author peter popham is happyas s to sign it. been able he is here tonight. writes for the independent reported from albania, mongolia, a south asia and italy. i am happy to say the asia society has made important contributions to continue to in
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i worked on a process for -- with human, embryonic, stem cells. the presentation was given in a very neutral terms. i presented it at medical schools, swinging around to -- the interesting thing is the whispered approval in the hallways afterwards. it is not the kind of thing that can be expressed openly. there is an enormous suppression of anything that does not adhere to the extreme, liberal orthodoxy. one imagine the ultimate expression of this and -- of disnen -- of dissent becomes progressively more difficult in such an environment. there are those who feel that there body rations have suffered because they have asserted their conscientious -- there modulations -- their valuations have suffered because they have asserted their conscience. one of the presentations was testimony of the assertion by an ob/gyn governing body that medical practitioners do not have a right to a constitutional objection when it goes against the desires of the patient. the absence of limits -- no longer a limit based on conscience for practitioner is a radical extrem
i worked on a process for -- with human, embryonic, stem cells. the presentation was given in a very neutral terms. i presented it at medical schools, swinging around to -- the interesting thing is the whispered approval in the hallways afterwards. it is not the kind of thing that can be expressed openly. there is an enormous suppression of anything that does not adhere to the extreme, liberal orthodoxy. one imagine the ultimate expression of this and -- of disnen -- of dissent becomes...
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it is the current embryonic transition and bringing that country back from its quarter-century of repression and stagnation and a great deal of the credit will be owed it to aung san suu kyi. in 1988, as i'm sure you all know, she was propelled from obscurity in english academic life to become a leader in burma's democracy movement. her subsequent military crackdown, she spent most of the next two decades under house arrest. like mahatma gandhi and nelson mandela before her, her oppressors only succeeded in making her an even more potent an important symbol of her country. now that she is happily out of confinement and will compete in the upcoming elections, the whole world is watching to see what the next chapter of this extraordinary story will be. this excellent book, "the lady and the peacock: the life of aung san suu kyi", will remain in a indispensable part of that story. it will be on sale afterwards in back of the hall, and i hope you all buy it. the author, peter popham, will be happy to sign up for you. we are happy to have him with us tonight. he writes frequently for the british
it is the current embryonic transition and bringing that country back from its quarter-century of repression and stagnation and a great deal of the credit will be owed it to aung san suu kyi. in 1988, as i'm sure you all know, she was propelled from obscurity in english academic life to become a leader in burma's democracy movement. her subsequent military crackdown, she spent most of the next two decades under house arrest. like mahatma gandhi and nelson mandela before her, her oppressors only...
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one of the things i worked on was an alternative method for it generating embryonic stem cells. it was a method that scared others. the presentation was given in neutral terms, and i presented it at medical schools and law schools. the interesting things that i presented at schools of medicine, department of medicine, is the whispered medical approval in the hallways afterward. it is not the kind of thing that can be expressed openly. there is an enormous suppression of anything that doesn't adhere to the extreme liberal orthodox. one imagines the ultimate expression of dissent, an assertion of a conscientious objection. this objection becomes progressively more difficult in such an environment. i am an advisor to residents in ob/gyn who feel that they have suffered because they have asserted a conscientious objection forming some of the extremes and procedures that are now routine and required. i was on the president's council in bioethics. one of the presentations was testimony on the assertion by a governing body that medical practitioners actually do not have a right to cons
one of the things i worked on was an alternative method for it generating embryonic stem cells. it was a method that scared others. the presentation was given in neutral terms, and i presented it at medical schools and law schools. the interesting things that i presented at schools of medicine, department of medicine, is the whispered medical approval in the hallways afterward. it is not the kind of thing that can be expressed openly. there is an enormous suppression of anything that doesn't...
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it is the current embryonic transition and bringing that country back from its quarter-century of repression and stagnation and a great deal of the credit will be owed it to aung san suu kyi. in 1988, as i'm sure you all know, she was propelled from obscurity in english academic life to become a leader in burma's democracy movement. her subsequent military crackdown, she spent most of the next two decades under house arrest. like mahatma gandhi and nelson mandela before her, her oppressors only succeeded in making her an even more potent an important symbol of her country. now that she is happily out of confinement and will compete in the upcoming elections, the whole world is watching to see what the next chapter of this extraordinary story will be. this excellent book, "the lady and the peacock: the life of aung san suu kyi", will remain in a indispensable part of that story. it will be on sale afterwards in back of the hall, and i hope you all buy it. the author, peter popham, will be happy to sign up for you. we are happy to have him with us tonight. he writes frequently for the british
it is the current embryonic transition and bringing that country back from its quarter-century of repression and stagnation and a great deal of the credit will be owed it to aung san suu kyi. in 1988, as i'm sure you all know, she was propelled from obscurity in english academic life to become a leader in burma's democracy movement. her subsequent military crackdown, she spent most of the next two decades under house arrest. like mahatma gandhi and nelson mandela before her, her oppressors only...
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thatcher, give her your thoughts about what is described here as the embryonic and developing reaganadministration. do you see that in paragraph two? >> yes, i think it shows at least the conversation, sometime me gossiping about australian and american politics. >> the three of you, if i can put it in this way, president-elect reagan, baroness thatcher and you were all of course on the same page politically, weren't you? >> i guess that's fair. yes, this was just before his inauguration. the meeting was. >> was part of the purpose of this meeting, if one could talk almost psychologically, to demonstrate to mrs. thatcher have very much you quote, one of us, one of us, baroness thatcher's terms, but was that part of your purpose of? >> no. >> of course you appreciated the importance of a face-to-face meeting. that's what you requested it, is that right? >> yes. >> and as mr. ingham says -- >> not to tell her about mr. reagan. >> pardon me? >> the purpose was not to tell her about mr. reagan. >> paragraph format, the main purpose of mr. murdoch's visit was to brief the prime minister o
thatcher, give her your thoughts about what is described here as the embryonic and developing reaganadministration. do you see that in paragraph two? >> yes, i think it shows at least the conversation, sometime me gossiping about australian and american politics. >> the three of you, if i can put it in this way, president-elect reagan, baroness thatcher and you were all of course on the same page politically, weren't you? >> i guess that's fair. yes, this was just before his...