ann, and joan walsh. let's talk a little bit about the 2016 election, something that is very consequential. new polling out today shows hillary clinton, 65, joe biden, 13. question for you, joan. emily's 9:30 today. this whole push to have a female president. i have to suspect that's not trying to recruit kirsten gillebrand. >> there's one person i think they have in mind. >> the glass ceiling has got a lot of knocks on it today. >> 18 million cracks and now a little bit more. i think it's going to be hard for her to resist this. she may well resist it. we always have to say that. the claim of history and the claim of women, it's just going to keep getting louder. then you see these numbers. poor joe biden would be a runaway front runner. doesn't mean much at this point. she just knocks everybody, you know, back into the barnyard. >> ann, you've covered a lot of campaigns. barring something coming out of the past, the clintons are more embedded in the history of american politics. this field is clear. >> well, it is. having covered the hillary clinton campaign the last time around, i would remind everyone these were kind of her numbers then too. she was the runaway front runner and sh