beth: we have tried. emily: how hard did you try? beth: very hard. hn: the details there are not really what matters. what matters is we tried really hard and it is not possible at this time. emily: do you feel if you pay her $2.7 million it is an admission of guilt? john: i'm sorry this happened to ellen, that it happened to us. that it happened to the tech industry. this is not a question of guilt. this is a civil case, the question is liability. emily: is it an admission of liability? john: the jury found that we are not liable after 5.5 weeks of testimony, so, no, it's not. look, emily, i'm sad that anyone has a bad experience at our firm. and ellen did. but we are moving forward and we know there is more we can do. we can be better. emily: what is it like being a female partner at kleiner and being a female venture capitalist? what is that like? beth: so being a female partner at kleiner has been the best work environment of my career. and that is because i'm surrounded by great women and great partners. emily: other women have left kleiner. does

-emily beth. -emily beth. look at emily beth. isn't she the cutest? -how beautiful. -thank you, thank you. wait a minute, emily beth -- is that a southern name? oh, yes, alabama born and raised. aha, so, good food. -oh. -was that southern helpings of cornbrere and gravy? at every family y nction, a casserole, a pie -- you know how it goes. -oh, my. -oh, yeah. [ laughs ] -so how old are you? -30. so, you're 30. so how long were you struggling with your weight? mostly when i got to college. you know, you start eating at 3:00 a.m. and studying in the middle of the night... oh, boy. ...and so, you know, you just don't care about those things. why did you decide to lose it? well, you know, my doctor said "you have high blood pressure." you know... -at 30. i was on high-blood- pressure medicine in my 20s, you know, so i was like, "something has to change." yeah. so, what was it that caused you to make that decision? my sister was getting married, and my mom was like, "let's just do this. we can drop a few before the wedding, and i was like, "okay." i lost 60 by the wedding