imagine him meeting emily dickinson.mormonism began in new york state, as many of you obviously probably know, right in upstate new york and a place called the burned over district because the series of religious revivals sweeping through that particular part of the country and then went last and further west. so that is part of the spirit, too. of course should the intent go without saying as the antislavery movement, which was gathering more and more in the years after 1848, particularly after the mexican-american war ended in 1948 when the united states became a much bigger country and the disposition, sorry about that, the disposition of the land was acquired from mexico was a matter of some can turn, shall it be freed or shall it be slaves. that was the dialogue that became so acrimonious, that became so serious that of course it spiraled into what we think of as the civil war were a setnor sometimes called it, the war of northern aggression. thanks to oakland its rights, which i mentioned before. early antislavery

we have egypt and chase bank, those who also have a story about our critic loved emily dickinson and longfellow. so there we are. thank you. [applause] [applause] >> for more information, visit the author's website, brenda wineapple.com. >> next, the former assistant secretary of the treasury for terrorist financing and financial crimes. he talks about the treasury department's war on terror, following 9/11. this is about one hour. >> i would like to say thank you to the author, juan zarate, for giving us a chance to post this. when the alarm went off this morning, voices on npr and i thought michael they would be devoted to listening to him. and i think it is emblematic in the significance of the book. the book is really quite good. we talk about the whole of government. but what that usually means is that i want your budget, and would you please send it to me. you know, that's usually what that means when you hear the government people talk about it in this way. but what i think that we are really going to listen to today is about the real whole of government means. when we brought

i didn't know she existed when i wrote about emily dickinson and come came up, can't you get their name right? there is an dickenson, she is enormously important in history. when the abolitionists and her out like a canary in the moorings like pennsylvania coal miners to talk about anti slavery movement and republicans in a hostile environment, they sent her out. it worked okay so the rest of us will come out afterwards. >> can you talk about coming from literature and writing history? >> yes. i am intrigued that i am often introduced as a historian which is fine. i am very flattered. history writing, historians were something else i had to throw out of my barrel of received wisdom and prejudices against. as i mentioned in the book, and dickenson and higgins and in both of those cases i am writing about writers involving those cases, part of what always interested me is that they live in time and as i mentioned, something like that, really didn't meet lincoln, he went to manassas and was close with the man who invented the term manifest destiny call of those things. i was never that far

there was a great poet, her name was emily dickinson. i feel like she was, must have been a sister, a soul mate of mine. she once had a poem, she said, holding up a handful of dust, she would reach down and say, this quiet dust was gentlemen and ladies, and lads and girls, was laughter and ability, and sighing and frocks and curls. this passive place, a summer's nimble mansion where bloom and bees fulfilled their oriental circuit, then ceased like these. that's who all of us are if we identify ourselves with our body. the fact is that everything in this physical universe doesn't meet the definition of what is real. who you are is that soul that i spoke about a few moments ago, that soul that says, i want to expand, i want to be free, i want to go to a place where i understand that who i am is birthless, deathless, changeless, and live from that place, because what this involves fundamentally is reprogramming yourself from the belief system that has been your ego, the part of us that has come to believe that who we are is what we have, an