-- >> now, in the resulting backlash, which includes some of her fans, harry potter actors like emma watsonnst the author. ratcliffe said transgender women are women and erases the identity and dignity of transgender people. the following year, rowling tweeted that hundreds of trans activists have threatened to beat, rape, assassinate and embalm me. last year she published a novel in which a hate campaign is launcheded against the character who is cancelled for being trans phobic. the controversies reached the harry potter video games. a witch appears to be trans. rowling said she liked bringing together other voices and critics of her in to the podcast. whether these interviews soften or inflame it is a plot to play out. >> martha: thanks, howie. beloved by so many people and so many children raised on her books. enormously famous and popular as an author and now trying to make her voice be heard. howie, thank you. good to see you. so that's "the story" for this thursday, february 16. as always, "the story" goes on. we look forward to being back with you for more of "the story" tomorrow. s