now we're back with emmanuel jalil a hip hop artist who was a soldier rain his childhood fighting in the sudanese civil war. now i know that young children not even teenagers but really a lot of young like seven or eight like you where are still use us soldiers in africa looking back do you feel like children make good fighters they're sad to be more cool or cruel than the grownups there's nothing more dangerous than a kid with a rifle would you agree with that. do it because they don't thanks to our circle and smaller mean from our bill costs next to them they figured out cause and let's not gum you don't negotiate with a child soldier if they tell you stop you have to stop if you try to talk too much ensued talk i'm going to shoot you. now i guess when you guys were taken to those camps and you were taken away from your families the only thing that you have is that each other did you make any close friends when you were in a camp or when you were fighting yeah i had a lot of childhood friends. and you know you're told to be brother skip press so your fellow soldier is your brother