oh, yeah. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: look at that, brooke shields, michael jackson, and emmanuelmy life. >> by the way, that jacket is back. [ laughter ] >> oh my god. >> jimmy: is it true that you and your friends, the commodores, former friends -- >> great friends. >> jimmy: your great friends, the commodores, had an afro contest with the jackson 5? >> did you? >> that is a true story. [ cheers ] i can give you the back end of that. the back end of that is, they won every time. >> jimmy: okay. >> did you see that afro -- >> jimmy: how would it work? be measured with a ruler? >> no, you could look at and it see -- [ laughter ] try to do "dancing machine" and all, out of control. "abc," out of control. but we had commodore revenge. we had pillow fights. >> jimmy: pillow fights with the jacksons? >> but we couldn't beat them up. >> jimmy: why? >> because they're little people. [ laughter ] so what happened was, they were putting michael this big, right in front of jackie, this big. and then you go to hit jackie. and you won't hit michael. so then jackie knocks your brains out. >>