. >> i wouldn't call it -- weird emperialism. i would say it's america that has an important place to play in the world is a more positive way of putting it. and conservatives have embraced that part of t.r. in that original part of progressive. i just want to add to that very quickly that there's plenty of room for evasiveness on both sides. two wars were initiated in the bush administration. and for the first time in our history, there was no attention to the revenue that was required to fight those wars. t.r., for all of its faults, stood for responsible giveer nance. you had to pay for that weird emperialism. >> last comment. >> i'm still struck by e.j.'s claim of moderation. but the final, who's the most moderate here? the probody lem is who is doing good for the whole is made by government. the state -- >> it's the democratically decided. >> and i think the modern progression has really kind of abandoned that. and they've really now clung themselves, too much, i think, to this administrative model. and if they don't reinven

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